Those candles you mention do not burn out in game.
Are you arguing now that every single torch and candle or lighting source in the game that does not expire like the playerâs campfires are magical sconces to justify the unchanging nature of Terenasâ memorial?
Because if they arenât, the obvious implication is that when they burn out, someone comes by and exchange them, âoffscreenâ if you will, hence explaining why we never see them just blow out.
Like, do you guys have even an ounce of deductive creativity to bring to the table?
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Yeah, if you asked the average Forsaken what they thought of when they heard âMenethilâ what do you think their response would be?
he just looking for a lore reason that doesnt exist dude why waste your time, these sylvanas fans just dont want to even think about how toxic sylvanas has been to the forsaken in the story.
I thought it was implied since that memorial had stood in the undercity for so long and the Forsaken havenât removed it, itâs a nod to the king that he was a good guy.
You can still think the Forsaken owe the menethils nothing and acknowledge that they want to honor a good king.
we know the response cause its in before the storm, they love calia and they love Terenas
The majority of the Forsaken love Calia and Terenas?
You criticize me for making an assumption based on subtle world cues⊠THEN you ask me what I ASSUME the average Forsaken response would be to your specific question?
Well, putting hypocrisy aside, my assumption is that the average Forsaken would be like âThings were less undead under Terenas, SCREW that Arthas though. Calia? Oh yeah, I forgot about her, wasnât she marrying some Preston guy?â
Your interpretation of things in game*
If your assumption about the shrine is safe then it is also a safe assumption that the average Forsaken will immediately think of Arthas (negativity) upon hearing the name Menethil.
But I digress. Perhaps we should talk more about what a qualified Forsaken leader should look like.
I see you never played Dark Souls. Thatâs probably for the best, I imagine youâd miss like 99% of the lore and story.
Yes, but thatâs the thing. Arthas Menethil specifically will draw ire. Terenas Menethil to my knowledge isnât the subject of angry âScrew the royalsâ discussions. Caliaâs just been largely forgotten.
Itâs YOUR assumption that Terenas and Calia will draw ire as well. And you donât even have an in-game prop to back you up.
One that is not deemed Forsaken merely by complying to their âthemesâ that are only enforced going forward, not in retrospect.
yes they do, weird huh that a race cursed into undeath yearns for the past a past they where rejected from, MHmm what should they call themselvesâŠ
No, they donât. What was shown in the book was a SMALL group of Forsaken contacted their living family and were thinking about trying to integrate back into society with the living.
This does not reflect the entire Forsaken race, at all. And the book made that very clear.
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Wasnât it lore that Sylvanas was vocal about the Forsaken being shunned by the living and needing to let go of their former lives to include attachments to the previous monarchy?
Fair, but that leader should also have a connection beyond âoh Iâm undead to, just better different.â
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A group of Forsaken contacted their living family as part of a experiment to determine if re-connection was possible. The experiment went up in flames, but if it succeeded it doubtlessly wouldâve increased in scope, perhaps even lead to an annual event. Especially if word got out among the Forsaken that the living was actually quite positively receptive (or at least a non-zero percentage of them), and if word got out among the living that the Forsaken were indeed their long lost relatives.
Unsurprisingly, killing anyone who had a positive experience at that event left only the negative reinforcement.
Yes, but Terenas wasnât one of the people who shunned them, now was he?
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I said shunned by the living.
But, and yes this is an assumption, I donât think Sylvanas was too specific about what the Forsaken needed to let go of from their past. Iâm not sure she said donât trust the living, weâll get revenge on Arthas, but hey if you liked Terenas and Calia thatâs cool.
Then this point is relevant to the following quote how?
Sylvanas left the forsaken, dont act like the forsaken care about her opinions right now
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if anything many probably feel like âeverything she ever said was a lie then? what is the truth? when did she turn on us? when did we become pawns for her? why didnât we see it? where do we turn to now?â
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