No Forsaken Representation Is Better Than Having Calia

People see the ending and have no time for the middle of the story.

Calia can’t be the leader she isn’t developed.

Calia can’t be developed because she’s alliance.

People are complaining she has no development but also complaining about her being developed.

Yikes.

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That’s what some seem to think. We’re going into Shadowlands with her as Forsaken lead.

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nope all I know is she is educated cause she is a princess

Educated in what?

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Neither of these refute what I wrote. Yes, there are women in positions of authority in the game and yes there are women soldiers. However, I was talking women in noble and royal families. How many of them are nobles or royals?

Even in societies centuries ago, merchants, farmers, etc could marry who they wanted and do what they wanted in a limited fashion, though women were not soldiers. Just like in WoW. Only difference is women in WoW can join the Army/navy.

Jaina was thrust into a position of leadership under extraordinary circumstances when she led survivors to Kalimdor and later helped lead the Kirin Tor and then Kul Tiras.

Based on Calia’s history, we can extrapolate how noble and royal families might operate on Azeroth. Her father set up an arranged marriage for her. She had no say in it. After that fell apart, she married in secret with the hope her father would eventually give his blessing when he found out. Of course, we all know what happened after that.

Oh, and here is another example - Tiffin Wrynn. Her marriage to Varian was also arranged by her noble family with hopes of getting into the House of Nobles in Stormwind.

So, two examples from two different kingdoms.

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That’s what upsets me so much about posters who ask why calia didn’t “do anything” when Lordaeron was being taken

Like what do you expect a princess, who most likely only knew how to be seen and not heard, to do?

They act like she was some trained soldier.

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lol we already know how they operate theres more royals than just calia honey, like jaina

As the leader of the Forsaken. Way to argue in bad faith.

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Yeah she’s being developed as the leader of the Forsaken ,maybe.

But please wait and find out.

You’re arguing about the end of the movie after seeing the trailer.

We saw a book excerpt. And in the excerpt she isn’t even the full leader.

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Reminder that Terenas Menethil had a memorial shrine on the way down to the Forsaken city that is graffiti free, and giant candles which would need to be swapped out every so often. IE, a maintained sign

There’s not much to suggest the Forsaken as a whole hold any enmity towards the Menethil name. Arthas Menethil was the sole recipient of their grudge by all accounts. Even Sylvanas never said a bad word about daddy Menethil.

Allegedly. All I can see is that she is standing besides other Horde leaders. But I’ve seen nothing to confirm that she has formally assumed leadership.

End of the movie? We’re talking about the expansion launch.

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Reminder that Quel’Thelas has a gash in it still.

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No you have concluded that calia IS the leader of the Forsaken.

We don’t know that yet.

That’s what’s being teased in the excerpts. There is no formal lore to support that. That’s most likely the end goal.

So you are arguing against the end goal while only seeing the excerpt.

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Western Plaguelands showed signs of recovery in Cataclysm, Eastern Plaguelands showed little change, implying that the corruption is reversible but stubborn, so the same would apply to the Dead Scar.

But it implies a passage of time. In that same passage of time, Terenas’ memorial remains unmarred.

No, Voss is the leader. If Calia is to be leader it shouldn’t happen any time soon.

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It’s the game crew being lazy. You’re telling me the Forsaken care more about that shrine than the Blood elves care about their home?

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Voss is the leader?

Interim.

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Like we waited to find out who burned Teldrassil?

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So she’s a regent.