I think the people who slowly get more and more frustrated by lack of dual spec ends up being greater than the people who would quit in a huff over a feature that ultimately doesn’t really hurt them in anyways.
It’s just funny to watch the same old trolls use their same old tired tactics of changing the subject and deflecting the issues. Talking about things that have no bearing on anything.
We’ve got definitive proof here that the TBC devs didn’t want to make it easier to change your talents. It was deliberate design. They knew what they were doing. There’s no ambiguity. So now the entitled crowd don’t have a leg to stand on, so let’s start talking about the possible loss of subs. Which has nothing to do with anything, and if you’ve been paying attention you know that the entitled crowd will NEVER stop complaining. Never stop whining and asking for changers. They’ll just move on to the next issue and threat to quit (as they’ve done over and over again throughout Classic).
But, again, none of that matters. The TBC designers did not want dual spec. They wanted your choice to matter. It’s been quoted from 2007. There’s no discussion to have here. The topic is over. Dual spec ain’t happening.
I think people who watch a game they waited for years to see again getting slowly eroded and watered down against what they were promised are more likely leave. Then people who want a new feature added and are told to wait a bit for it.
The TBC devs are the ones who developed Dual Spec. They first mentioned it in June of 2008.
5 months before WoTLK. They were obviously talking about it before then.
Duel spec would be sweet to have in classic. I respec at least once a day, sometimes twice. it gets old having to farm so much gold to keep up. it would honestly be more worth to just lvl a second warrior so i can have both specs. but i really dont want to start from 1, having already used my boost.
Which is what a lot of people used to do back in TBC (and Vanilla). It’s also one of the reasons why TBC ran so long with so little end game content. The grind is the game.
If Blizzard want to go Classic+ then they need to also add new content on a faster cycle.
TBC was still bringing in new players, that’s why it seemed like it lasted so long, Classic and Now TBC Classic had a huge starting pop that steadily decreased.
did you lvl a second warrior for that purpose? or do you know a single person who has?
Back in the day I levelled alts to cover multiple roles yes.
I haven’t in 2021 because 100g a week is proving a lot easier to come by. I know a few guildies who have multiple alts doing multiple roles. But it’s still early days. I am in the process of levelling a healer. It’s a time sink and it makes it so that we don’t get bored and raid log every week.
The game originally didn’t have enough content to sustain a grind free experience.
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i didnt say lvl alts to cover different roles. i have a 70 of every class. im talking about leveling the same class to 70 just so you dont have to spend at least 100g a week to respec
And I stated I know guildies who have done this. I wasn’t clear but at least one of them has two Warriors at 70. I don’t need to but I do have alts for different roles (not the same I know).
Either way - diddums, it’s how the game is. If you remove things that are inconvenient you end up with not a lot left to actually play in TBC. It’s an old school MMO - that’s how they were. They didn’t come with loads of content.
Isn’t it easier though to grind 50g a few times a week than to level a class to 70 and gear it?
Theres truth in what your saying, but i dont see it as a very good argument for this case. Every single day i have probably 4 or 5 people ask me to run heroics or low lvl dungeons with them to help them through content. if i could change from a tank/dps spec on demand i would play more. i raid to get tank gear and dps gear and i like to play both specs, and run dungeons for fun. but having to grind gold in order to do the only content that is left in the game is tiring and i find myself wanting to play other games simply because i cant afford to be respecing so often. i have to save my gold for consumables for raid every week. hell id love to do bg’s too when noones on, but i have to respec to do that too and when my friends are back on i gotta spend another 50g to respec back to tank
…but nobody actually likes the pvp changes. I don’t know why this would be your ace in the hole for the argument of adding dual spec lmao.
thats your opinion though. i simply like to play the game. bgs may not be in the best place right now but i still enjoy it when im not going in as prot.
Yep I get it - it is inconvenient - I feel it too. But that’s just how TBC was and how it is. It’s a grindy game where things like finding groups and such take time and effort - by design. You take those elements out and, unlike Retail, there’s not a lot else to do in the game.
I donno, people seemed pretty happy about both same faction BG’s and fixing premades.
As far as I can tell same faction BG is not in the game, so I’m not even referring to that.
whatever you say… but i played wrath, with duel spec, and i dont think i missed but a hand full of days the entire expansion. so duel spec did not ruin the game and it would be nice to have it now in tbc
I’m fairly sure they’ll be back once blizzard deals with some their… internal… issues.
Sure, how about LFD too?