i’m just talking about how the game functions as a museum . you have museum, that’ll never advance to expacs. you have museum that is seasonal. you have all expacs. you have a few expacs.
I don’t want the entire museum to be seasonal. That’ll definitely drive me away even harder than expansions would.
i know this. you’ve already said that several times. hehe
i’m saying you’d have a museum static classic and separately, a museum classic that reboots. everybody that plays on that one knows that in 3 years or whatever, the thing will be wiped and restarted. you have a separate classic+ with new and experimental stuff added. and you have separate expacs.
That’s several different versions of WoW, though. Far more than I think Blizzard can handle.
the only difference between museum static and museum seasonal is the character database is wiped and the game restarts at patch 1.12. its using all the same content as museum static, only difference being is patches.
classic+ is more like a retail expac, though it would require making retail alot more like classic. so i wouldnt think of this as more than wow could handle.
and tbc and wotlk expacs would probably be the limit. blizzard has many games, separate from wow.
Yes, but they are all completely different games that don’t even have the same foundation or banner.
We’re talking multiple different versions of the same game, all running at once.
they use to run multiple different versions of the game when they had pvp servers, rp-pvp servers, pve servers, and over 200 different main servers which classic will not have and retail no longer has
Not gonna say I agree or not.
But–
Having a static game may serve a Few players compared to a Classic+ which could serve More players.
We really have no idea what those numbers look like. We can all make an educated guess.
However-- Classic wasn’t produced just for “Retro” gamers. Classic was produced to Hopefully kill off Psevers while bringing the Non-Paying Customer back to Blizzard.
Let’s not be delusional into believing that Blizzard did this solely for the “retro” crowd or that “retro” crowd will be the Only group they are pandering Classic toward.
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I hear “keep it in the spirit of Vanilla” and I want to puke.
If you brought back all of the original developers, they still wouldn’t create new content for a Classic+ that was in the spirit of Vanilla.
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I think Classic+, Pristine and Seasonal servers should all be what happens.
Classic+ dosen’t have to be a patch to Pristine Classic, it can be more like it’s own new and separate expansion(s).
Classic is not special enough that a static server would maintain interest besides for a very small amount.
Classic is not capable of being played as an infinite collect-a-thon like modern WoW. PvE and PvP are obviously very reliant on other players playing the game.
Static classic would mean five years down the line it’s impossible to do anything. Anyone who wants to raids already done with it by that point, so you can never gear an alt again. Eventually people are tired of the same balance in pvp (with no skill based ranking system) and quit too.
Alternatively if Blizz had good updates, it’s possible that classic is bigger five years down the line than when it initially launches.
So true. So very true.
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ok then bye
This is pretty much exactly the kind of stuff RS forum goers said about OSRS when it was released.
The truth is that after you’ve played classic for a couple years, you will know there is stuff that can be improved (or even that you’d want to experience it over again with new servers.)
No one is asking for Blizzard to make changes on launch, you’d have plenty of time to do everything in classic before they’re even really going to consider it.
Nobody who wanted Vanilla servers wanted it to progress beyond Vanilla.
You only need look at the origins of the movement back when TBC was announced.
I think you underestimate its draw.
Besides, Blizzard would never design by democracy.
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yeah. i would like to talk about this. for example, could it go even further back than vanilla era? like the well of eternity timeframe or the first war, when all the figures we know from retail are young and some are not even born yet. varian is a young man, thrall is a young orc. khadghar is young. medivh is still alive. arthas is just a kid. and so on. some of the famous heroes of that timeframe, are alive. totally different situation though. have you seen this
That’s total nonsense. The game hasn’t launched yet and we’re neck deep in requests for changes. Get out of here with that crap.
Communities say a lot of things, especially communities like WoW’s where it’s the norm to push self-interest and be obnoxiously full of crap while doing so.
When the clamor for what were called Legacy servers at the time started getting louder, people were saying “we just want the original game back.” I remember countering with “You’ll never be satisfied with that; eventually you’re going to want your own special expansions just for you that people who play the normal game won’t be able to play.” I was responded to with variations of “You’re being hysterical, nobody anywhere is asking for that.”
And now here we are with five threads asking for a special Kara raid just for Classic players.
So again…communities say a lot of things. This is exactly what Brack was talking about when he said “You think you do, but you don’t.”
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Thrall’s just a wittle baybeh back den. <3
He was adorable in the movie.
Of course they wouldn’t. I mean, Blizzard designs games they want to play. They haven’t been for gamers by gamers for real long time.
And just because any player agrees or Likes their design philosophy, doesn’t mean it was done For them.
Tho-- I’ll say, Redesigning TBC or WotLK in the “Spirit of Vanilla” is an awful idea. They would no longer be TBC or WotLk.
It doesn’t matter what those people wanted in TBC. Enough people have played OSRS to know that Classic WoW is an opportunity for them to make a WoW that is better than vanilla ever was.
The only way you can get your wish of the game going into maintenance mode is if Classic WoW fails, which means you wouldn’t have people to play with anyways.
More likely than not, we will get to progress to TBC and/or have seasonal servers instead.
Personally I’d much rather have classic+ than TBC because once you’re in TBC you’re already starting to take away some stuff that makes the game what it is.