Night elves did NOT get their revenge, this is unacceptable!

Are you new here? Tyrande is actively against / discusses wishing to take the fight to the Horde at every opportunity. Legion is the only time she’s made a comment in pleasant manners to the Horde player character and that was when we saved Malfurion. Which she quickly forgets in Suramar and is right back to dishing out the sass to everyone.

Tyrande is gonna have more to say about the Horde. Stop fretting over a story that isn’t done yet and you have zero idea where it’s gonna go. Because that’s the truth. You have zero idea where it’s gonna go. Relax.

Well the tree was payback for eleves storming orgrimmar during mists. They killed everyone in the city to get to garrosh. Cant complain when the bull fights back.

What???

The alliance helped the horde get rid of their corrupt warchief even after what happened with theramore, and there were barely any night elves involved, too.

Tyrande has barely any influence now though that she lost the majority of her people and Anduin rather focusing on Azshara.
She be against the horde as much as she wants, but that still doesn’t change the fact that she is even with the horde now. It would definitely not surprise me if we end up with a “work together against a greater threat and forget everything” again.

The story could take many different directions, that still doesn’t change the fact that we got a confirmation that there won’t be any revenge for night elves for what happened.

Oh gee, yeah, because the imminent world threatening squid woman with literal eggs of further squid people that she could unleash on Azeroth and destroy at any moment shouldn’t be focused on.

News flash. No Azeroth = no vengeance. The immediate threat of Azshara is more important than petty faction war crap. And I say this as someone who loves the faction war.

So should we not and just let the planet die and then we die in the process? Why would we do that?

They said her story isn’t done yet, that could include further vengeance if they want. You are reading way too much into this.

At this point, tyrande should rather let azeroth die than fighting aside Sylvanas, the person who killed most of her people and tried to also kill the remaining ones. She has almost nothing more to lose at this point. It just doesn’t make sense for the alliance to fight aside the horde but that’s where the story is directing again.
According to Ions hints, the last boss of BfA will be N’zoth and there is absolutely no place for night elf revenge when having to deal with N’zoth.
Then, as time passes, people will just forget about what happened with teldrassil and blizzard will pretend like it has never happened.

Yes, her entire story might not be done, but her revenge against the horde is done.

Firstly, yeah, the alliance doesn’t actually ever get revenge for anything, the leaders just sit back and play go fish. (part of the reason I don’t listen to them) That being said there were a million ways to evacuate the tree, but blizzard decided “nah, even though mages learn the sw portal at a low level and more than 25,000 accounts saved at least one elf everyone died” different realms aside, it’s all the same city. Blizzard makes poor writing decisions on the daily is my point; take the differences in the alliance and horde cutscenes for battle of daz for instance. Or the extended cutscene that the horde got during the prelaunch event. Or even the terrible tactical decisions that the alliance and horde would never make with a fleet following 3 ships or the zandalari getting pearl harbored because all their eggs were in one basket. Without playing both factions (and not having cutscenes disabled like lots of people do) you’d never know what was going on. Kinda silly, really seeing as you, as a player literally play both factions in that raid, but whatever. I reject their fictional reality and substitute my own.

…You can’t be serious. You honestly think Tyrande, a high priestess of the moon, would selfishly condemn all of Azeroth, kill absolutely everybody in the process all to avoid working with Sylvanas when she can easily save the planet, and then get revenge on the people who deserve it? You’re joking, right? Tell me you don’t honestly believe that.

You don’t get it, do you? Two wrongs don’t make a right. We’re taught that in pre-school.

You’re unbelievably short sighted.

that’s the part that’s never going to happen, because those that write the story said so. It would be horrible writing and even more of a punch to the face for alliance, specifically night elf players if tyrande fights aside sylvanas.
Based on sylvanas character, she would probably try to assassinate tyrande in the process of fighting a greater evil. Because you know… she could seek her justified revenge in the future.

so what do you suggest as a compensation for the unprovoked annihilation of almost an entire race? Shaking hands and forgetting about it?

I only repeat what the devs said, those aren’t my words.

No, I propose not being stupid. Cause what you’re suggesting would make Tyrande an idiot, and the rest of us dead.

This is also false. You’re paraphrasing and trying to insight nonsense when the devs didn’t say anything. They said there’s much more story to tell, they felt Tyrande got her revenge, and that they have so much going on. There’s plenty of opportunity for Tyrande to go further if they wish.

Just because you want the night elves to go on a mass murder spree, say screw the planet and kill everyone (including themselves) in the process, doesn’t mean they should do it. Tyrande’s an idiot, but not that big of an idiot.

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Its ok, I am sure the Alliance will get its revenge when Sylvanas attacks Stormwind and kills all the humans, raising them as Forsaken. I hear they are going to have her break a nail in the process and well, as undead it might not grow back. Imagine how bad she would look!

I say lets have Anduin cast a mass res and all the Forsaken are now returned to being Alliance humana and the entire Forsaken race is gone. As a penalty, he needs to take an weekend off lounging in his beach house.

Maybe would could have Tyrande get her revenge by mind controlling Lothremar and having the Blood Elves leave the Horde and rejoin the Alliance and become High Elves again, complete with blue eyes and morals that make Anduin look morally grey. The price for doing this? She has to leave Malfurion alone for a week and deal with the loneliness of not having him around.

Any of these storylines would be as comparable and as cringy as what was done to the night elves.

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The whole premise for the attack is shallow. That pretty much sums up her whole arc for this expansion.

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Do you not see how horrible this writing is if this happens then? At the beginning of BfA, we all expected night elves to get bloody revenge for what happened and now the story is heading towards… fighting aside with sylvanas?

but they did? I even gave you the link for that.

further in terms of other things than getting her deserved revenge for the genocide. Aside from that, they never mentioned that tyrandes story will go on. It’s likely, BUT - the point stands that it will have nothing to do with her revenge against the horde.

A mass murder spree against those that were responsible would be a good start. Atleast against those that are now occupying their land and reconquer what’s left of their former land. Oh and Sylvanas should not only die by the hand of a night elf, but also die a slow painful death, just like those that she killed.
Like not even darkshore was reconquered in 8.1, is this supposed to be a bad joke?

What bothers me is that they’re letting this story happen just like that. They gave us 8.1, we barely got any revenge and now they act like everything is fine and the alliance is ready to fight at together with the horde again. And after that, since they were so succesful together, they will likely make peace or something, still with Sylvanas as a warchief.

No, at the beginning of BFA, people didn’t know what to expect. If you outright expected vengeance, that’s different. Speak for you, and only you.

Secondly, Tyrande is now a demigod. That’s pretty good.

The link you gave does not say the things you say. I quote the link directly. You’re paraphrasing, and doing a bad job of it.

You know absolutely nothing about what the devs have planned. Stop acting like you do. Bad form.

You don’t know what’s going to happen, you don’t know what’s planned, stop acting like you do. Until we know what’s going to happen, chill.

News flash! Every story happens this way in Warcraft. Boom, we fight for a bit, bad juju, world ending threat. Every time.

Second news flash. Most of the Alliance might be fine with it. Tyrande walked out on a meeting with Anduin, her high king, said kiss off, and went to go fight her own war. There’s nothing stating, or showing Tyrande is in support of this. Lack of presence isn’t complacency. If you walk out of a meeting with your boss, you’re probably gonna get fired, not assumed to be on board with everything.

We don’t know that, and I highly doubt it.

It says that tyrande has already gotten her revenge. That implies that she doesn’t need any more revenge in the future.

A demigod that almost died to Nathanos in a 1v1.

I know as much about it as it was stated in the interview. And tyrande has NOT gotten her revenge. This is not true and just an insult to night elf players.

Yes, and after that she got her empowerment but still almost got executed by Nathanos. She then killed 1 valkyr but lost 2 commanders that were awakened by nathanos.

Would it really surprise you after what we’ve seen so far? Tyrande is completely even with the horde now, so why not just make peace?

Classic makes them relevant again.

If you want to be an elf…you got 1 choice. One many are taking as its a busy zones in classic. Even on an RP alt US server I hit from oceanic so it be their off hours.

Some late start retailers are getting history lessons they may have missed since in retail, Since, yeah…, this is the zone you power level through or just ignore. even if a NE lol.

Even my NE’s hit the dark shire/redridge/basically human lands run ASAP in retail. Better density of quests and other things make it the clear choice imo. Classic…you level up in NE ville more if only to not hate life on a wetlands run to hit SW lol.

I don’t think so. I mean the Night Elves lost Ashenvale, Darkshore, Teldrassil, many small towns, countless of civilians, thousands of troops, and almost Malfurion. But in the end the Night Elves managed to kill ONE VAL’KYR!!!

This sound like fully avenged and also a flawless Victory to me.

Don’t forget that we’re talking about the Horde here, we’re not talking about the Burning Legion or Old Gods, these guys are not capable to destroy a single small hub.

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I’ve pretty much given up on anything related to story at this point. The game is being written to fuel their own head canon and fantasies and the player base is just along for the ride. Consistent character development is long gone.

:cookie:

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thing is unless they make some changes…it will end like it always does. Not much closure, a temp truce of sorts that will break in 9.0. then reforged for the galactic sized bad thing then 10.0 and boom…here we go again.

One of the things that could change this is the thing they will most likely not do. 3rd faction more independent.

See this would solve one problem. Unneeded hate. Why could the NE/Alliance stop hating all of horde. Answer, some horde went to the 3rd faction. Not us bro…look at the banshee queen’s sheeple dude.Hate them all day long…we get you are mad. We don’t like them either.

Same for horde hate to alliance. They can now hate the people that chose to be there. You supported the alliance even though they burned Orgrimarr!!! Grrr!!!

Nope, chill horde dude. I chose the 3rd faction, I chose to clear myself of this mess. Go put your axe in that human male paladin’s head who stayed alliance over there my man

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Undercity was evacuated before sylvanas destroyed because it was part of her plan.

I still remember that quest in the burning tree where it said I had to rescue a thousand civilians but it only had a minute timer. It was mocking me. I couldn’t save them all.

And then what happens next? We get a sad orc cinematic. And then we get another cinematic where anduin let’s the sad orc go! Why didnt we get to see how Tyrande and malfurion reacted to this event?

I hope sylvanas gets what’s coming to her because what she did was wrong and she hasn’t payed for it.

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I hope so too, but knowing blizzard we’ll most likely end up with Sylvanas as the hero as if this genocide never happened.

At this point Sylvanas probably has killed even more innocent lives than Gul’dan and all those villains.

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