Aren’t we seeing the same thing in BfA? The only difference between garrosh and sylvanas is that she’s way worse and commits atrocities far larger than garrosh could’ve ever imagined. The biggest thing garrosh did was probably theramore which doesn’t even come close to Teldrassil. Then he proceeded to corrupt a part of pandaria, but I’m pretty sure that there weren’t any deaths.
Uh. What? Garrosh devoured the juices of an Old God heart and was absolutely cool with taking it all for himself with the intent of annihilating everyone off the face of Azeroth. You do remember that, right?
You know. Mountains of skulls, rivers of blood, etc, etc. That whole bit. You remember that right?
Uh well intending to do something isn’t actually the same as actually doing something. The garrosh that went crazy wasn’t entirely him anymore, and he still was rightfully executed in the end by thrall. We will 100% not see this with sylvanas though because as mentioned, the night elves are apparently avenged.
Slighty off topic but Garrosh was already extremely racist long before the rebellion. In Tides of War he more or less refers to Blood Elves and Forsaken as cannon fodder, Trolls as urchins, and Tauren as meat shields.
All he wanted to do was murder and pillage like the orcs did under the influence of the demon blood.
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Hardly, if anything Sylvanas should be more compared to Lich King, especially given the night elf story is quite literally the same as Sylvanas’ own tragic backstory. Something that I find a bit silly in my own opinion, but she does quite clearly state that the dead have no need for honor. Which is true, they’re dead…honor does nothing for her.
Also, Theramore was also pretty messed up. Plus didn’t Vareesa and Alexstrazsa lose both of their mates?
Again he also stated he’d be willing to kill any horde that wasn’t going to agree with his True Horde because at that point you may as well be siding with the Alliance or just horrible in general.
No. He jumped through a portal, went to an alternate timeline, and brought forth war in a manner that people didn’t know existed, on top of bringing forth to the table an absolute clustertruck of bad juju. Sure, Thrall killed him in the end. But he certainly didn’t die as quickly as he should have.
And on the topic of intent, I should think intent means something. Saurfang never intended on taking Malfurion’s head. His intent to not do something resulted in Sylvanas burning your precious tree.
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True, his atrocities weren’t enough to finish him right off. He first had to start the whole WoD before someone realized that he must die. It will be the same with sylvanas. Genocide of almost an entire race won’t be enough for blizzard to give night elves their rightful kill of sylvanas, instead she will either end up as a hero at the end or just be killed by someone else. Even though it’s more likely that she’ll become a hero and everything will be forgiven and forgotten. Tyrande might aswell just fight aside her, because why not? They are completely even now.
^^ this… Also you still forget that Sylvanas’ actions still is about as equal as any of the other atrocities. Just like Arthas killed his own innocent people due to the disease, slaughtered thousands of people of multiple different races, nearly destroyed high elves, was slurping up souls for his sword, took out his own heart to become stronger and to not be weakened by anything. You know, usual really bad things that a leader who went corrupt do. Garrosh also got corrupt, wanted to destroy everyone, was racist like people have said, was willing to kill people of the horde because they weren’t apart of his true horde. Fel orcs slaughtering a bunch of draenei to conquer them.
Er, no I’m pretty sure everyone knew that he needed to die way before WoD happened. But because it was in Pandaria they were like, “Nah, you factions don’t get to choose what you want to do with him.” He should have most definitely died way before WoD… No one really liked Garrosh for multiple reasons.
Also no? If Genn hadn’t forgotten something as her killing his son, why would Tyrande forget what she did?
Edit : Oh right, she also blighted Genn’s people, can’t forget about that. Yeah I’m pretty sure Tyrande wouldn’t forget what she did given Genn definitely hasn’t forgotten what she’s done, and it’s only adding more reasons to Genn’s list.
Now now, you can’t have your revenge until you’ve finished your vegetables.
And there’s still some smoldering husk of tree left on your plate.
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Because she has already gotten her revenge according to those guys responsible for the lore.
This is just so stupid and doesn’t make sense but it’s what blizzard said: That tyrande is satisfied with killing 1 val’kyr while thousands of innocents of her own people died.
Knowing blizzard, the death of the val’kyr will have absolutely zero influence in the future story and won’t even bother sylvanas in the slightest.
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For now. Again we can’t just assume based off that one interview that they don’t plan on expanding that story even further and the hatred Tyrande now has for Sylvanas even further. They clearly state that because there are so many stories that are wanted to be told, Tyrande’s is now a back burner, as part of it has already been told.
We also don’t know this, especially since everyone knows based off the Lore Blizzard has given, Sylvanas needs those Valkyr and we also still don’t even know the deal she made with Helya. With her Valkyr dwindling, it’s bound to come into play eventually.
That isn’t what they said. That’s not a direct quote. You acting like it is is completely disingenuous.
Also not true.
This is what’s said in the interview.
Shani began by saying that Tides of Vengeance gave the team its chance to “tell a little bit of Tyrande’s story” but that the focus in Nazjatar is going to shift to delve into other characters and to see more of what Sylvanas and Anduin are up to.
“I think she had her moment where we told some of her story and she got her revenge for the Night Elves. I don’t think we’re exploring her story too much more in Nazjatar though.” Shani said.
Morgan picked up the conversation. “The problem is there is so much to be told. Everyone has characters they want to expand on, but we also want to introduce new ones and to find ways to weave those stories together. With Rise of Azshara, the emphasis is on Sylvanas and Azshara herself. They are the focus. There’s just so much happening.”
This is very different. No where does it say the night elves’ story is done. It says that they believe Tyrande got her revenge and that there’s so much to tell but that 8.2 would focus on some different characters for the sake of weaving in the main story.
There are two narratives in BFA. Old Gods, and the faction conflict. The faction conflict is where characters like Tyrande, Summermoon, Moonwarden, etc are going to come back into the fold. A major patch like 8.2 focusing on Old Gods is going to focus on more main characters. It’s fine if the story isn’t finished in one go. You’re acting like the devs said one thing when they didn’t say anything to that effect at all.
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She wasn’t at the Wrathgate. That was Putress. I don’t know if you started after wrath, but back in the day there was a scenario-like quest where you had to raid to take back Undercity from him and Varimathras.
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Not…exactly…true. Alex Afrasiabi came out and said that Sylvanas was responsible for the Wrath Gate. We all got duped.
The thing that’s bothering me is that after 1 year into bfa, after more than a year since the event happened, we get told that tyrande already got her revenge after waiting over a year for actual revenge to happen.
It bothers be because if they think that tyrande has already gotten her revenge, they will see no need to ever give night elves a real revenge or atleast a compensation for what happened. Night elves will remain homeless, almost extinct, hopeless and and the storywriters refer to this as “revenge”
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And you also got told, and I quote: “We got to tell a little bit of Tyrande’s story in Tides of Vengeance”. That’s in the article directly. You know what that means? There’s more story to go. You know what else? Stories in WoW take decades to finish sometimes. Stories from previous expansions still aren’t done.
Tyrande got her revenge on Sylvanas, but there’s still more of her story to tell, as I just pointed out. You’re being outrageous over nothing.
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im a bit behind on the lore, who did she kill?
A Val’kyr. One of the creatures that even human farmers have been known to slay in the past. Just an inch above trash mob, really.
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