Look, russia has more lands then any other country, but has not the highest density in terms of population, your race can be almost extint and you can own more land then any other race
So your argument is a hollow one, its pointless
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You don’t know that, the aspects originally blessed nordrassil to have these qualities and they may do it again…
I’m sure the new tree will happen but I’m concerned Blizzard will plant it in the Dragon Isles, since they have a tendency to only ever focus on the most recent continent. The night elves should stay in Kalimdor.
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I think they’re personally taking to the Isles to get it blessed by all the flights, but that’s me.
Though it being on the islands is smart, nobody wants to anger an entire island full of dragons after all 
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It is the current canon, as there is no other information about it that contradicts it.
No, it isn’t the current canon and there is current information that contradicts it. Like all of the very many lands that Night Elves own. And that Tyrande sent Darnassus’s entire army away when Teldrassil was sieged.
An army is typically only a small percentage of an population, again, a hollow argument
Dread, argue on base of the canon or stop this nonsense
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What’s your source?
Armies over the course of history have rarely if ever gone higher than about 2% of the population, with even the most extreme (and it is worth noting, not considered very credible w/r/t numbers) accounts of ancient history, such as the Persian Empire, barely nearing 10%. Throughout history, armies have needed ridiculous amounts of logistical back-up – both to organize them in the first place in the older eras and to maintain supply lines once foraging locally was no longer a dependable source of supply.
I make no assumptions that Warcraft adheres to this logic, as Warcraft rarely adheres to uh, logic – but it strikes me as a reasonable assumption if one were inclined to make such, absent any canon sources saying otherwise. (Which there may well be; I know very little of the larger canon.)
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Honestly, Persian empire numbers are most probably fudged by the greeks so they could boast 10 guys beat a hundred thousand men.
Best indicator is the Roman empire, their logistics was insane, they had a whole ocean that was their highway to transport resources to every corner… and they didn’t really have much reason to lie to themselves concerning their own troop numbers.
I would say china too since their army numbers were pretty insane too but idk much about their history to really comment.
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Why would you apply earth logic to azeroth when we do never ending wars in warcraft?
Why would Dread apply human logic at all? 
Well, for one thing, it would actually be much more believable that the size of an army is a low percentage of the population in such a case. A country with poor organizational technologies and logistics for leveraging their population into formal armies that can be effectively projected from place to place that slowly gets better at such organization would be apt for the night elves for multiple reasons.
For another, and far more fundamentally, you’ve been the one making the claim that having the military out of Darnassus would be a significant factor weighing against the canon statements that the night elf population was overwhelmingly reduced. You are attempting to discredit explicit canon on the grounds of inference, but inference does not really appear to be your ally.
You may well be correct about the state of night elf population. I have very low confidence in WoW showing consistency and no real investment in the idea that the night elves were genocided. Your arguments on this matter, however, are the ones with a higher burden of proof which you have not met.
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I didn’t make the argument that armies we’re tiny fractions. Zahir did. And no neither he nor you made that burden.
“This is how it works irl” doesn’t apply to a video game about fantasy characters never wndingly warring. Nevermind that every citizen recruited to fight in the war of thorns in the nelf book had at one time served in the army, lmao.
You were the first that insinuated there were plenty of NEs left because the entire army was away.
And zahir responded with this argument.
At least be honest…
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and the nelf book confirmed that every single civilian had at one time served in the army and had advanced military training which allowed them to almost single racedlyndestroy the entire horde.
My burden is met. Zahir 's is no wher near close.
Now you are moving the goal post.
Its confirmed only that the civilians learned to defend themselve, not that everyone of them served in the military.
Don’t twist anything there
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