Why you cherry picking?
- Not full cgi like the Saurfang one
- Way, way after the burning that cinematic was released
- Part of a scenario that was another humiliation due to the fact that not even a god-powered Tyrande can manage to kill Nathanos of all people whom isnât even anything super special, WITH the help of supposedly the most powerful Druid even.
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Heâs enough to challenge a Raid as an outdoor boss. Heâs also the only Human able to cut the mustard as a Ranger of Quelâthelas.
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It really doesnât matter if your are special or not to be raid boss all you need is importance
Literally put up an entire thread about this: Val'kyr and the Jailer.
Nathanos is not going to die idk why you think he would die when he didnât die in the best possible opportunity in 8.1.
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Heâs got to survive long enough for either Sylvanas to betray him or for him to betray Sylvanas⊠Whichever comes first. Probably the former. Weâll see.
Plot armor is the greatest defense in existence.
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So heâs as good as a generic High/Blood Elf unit, got it.
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Tell that to the ghouls. 
Yea and then we fight alongside him because getting betrayed speaks you free of your crimes. Same with the horde in 8.2.5âŠ
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Perhaps. Maybe. Iâd rather we didnât though because Nathanos sucks. Ideally I hope she just kills him or at least leaves him a broken mess of sadness. âHow could she have done this?! I loved her!â
And then tyrande comes and blows him up
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They wonât do this when Nathanos is the lead writerâs self-insertâŠ
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I thought there was a WoW writing team? Does all of the current story direction rest on Danuserâs shoulders?
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There is a team, and heâs not the lead. His title is Senior Narrative Designer, and when it comes to Battle for Azeroth, heâs credited as a âGame Designerâ along with dozens of others.
BFAâs Creative Development/Writers are described as including Robert Brooks, Matt Burns, Christie Golden, and Andrew R. Robinson.
You can look up credits here.
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So heâs not the lead designer, and they write the story with a team which presumably they all provide input on the best way to push the story forward, then why do people whine about Nathanos (A character who existed since Vanilla) being his self insert?
Seems like people should place the blame on the whole writing team, and less on someone who has a favorite character.
Well the character is apparently based on him in terms of likeness. By his own admission on his twitter page. I think he contributed to some Nathanos-centric stuff too.
But itâs a collaborative effort, and weâve all written with that one person who favored one character maybe a little too much. Yeah, a little of that can come through, but the idea that heâs actually calling the shot and that everyone else is in on his fantasy and trying to make it come true is overblown.
Heâs just the big badâs sidekick, but itâs not helped by the fact that Nathanos is a smarmy jerk, and people really want to kick his teeth in.
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People make up simple answer - regardless of validity - to questions of why things arenât going the way they want out of a sense of needing a windmill to till at.
Danuser has spoken very enthusiastically about the Night Elves as much as he has about Sylvanas. People ignore the former because it doesnât line up with their seeking someone to blame.
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I kind of like that heâs a smarmy jerk. Itâs a nice change of pace from all the NPCâs singing the championâs praises all day imo.
Maybe Iâm just weird though.
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Nathanos has been scathing and condescending since Vanilla (2004). Itâs the most memorable thing about him. It also required a raid group to kill him in Vanilla and the quest text specifically tells the PC to âgather an armyâ in order to confront him.
Highlord Bolvar Fordragon: Do you know how many ranger lords exist in this world? How many human ranger lords have ever existed? Nathanosâ accomplishments were unprecedented. He was a tactical genius, responsible for Alliance victories spanning a decade of conflict. And now⊠the champion of the Forsaken. No. This cannot be. Order must be restored. Gather an army, [name]. Return to the Plaguelands with your army and destroy the Blightcaller. I wish you luck, [name]. Truly, you will need it for this battle.
I think his recent prominence in the story was just due to Sylvanas being warchief. Itâs similar to how Nazgrim was charged with more important tasks when Garrosh was warchief or how Rokhan was (brought out of obscurity and) charged with more important tasks when Volâjin was warchief.
Also I think idea the Amadis had (that the valâkyr and Nathanos are also being empowered by Sylvanasâs benefactor) seems very likely.
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