Night Elf Player Hate

It seems to be implied that’s the fate of everyone that doesn’t get a Naaru escort into Paradise or converted into a constellation. Night Elf, Forsaken, Human, the lot. In Outland the fate of orc spirits was to be consumed by the Dark Naaru in Osh’ungu.

I am actually super interested in Ardenweald. It seems like it’ll be a zone almost exclusively dedicated to fleshing out wild god lore and how they resurrect.

It also seems like a soft retcon of the idea that they are only immortal because of Freya. Unless she also made Ardenweald wild gods were always able to continue on as spirits and be reborn. Just in the Shadowlands rather than within the Emerald Dream. This is a good thing to me because it makes the wild gods, as entities of life magic, something that stand on their own without needing titan involvement.

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God do I hope so.

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Yes I saw the thing about The Maw. Seems you’re right.

Not just Night Elves… EVERYONE who dies is ending up in the Maw.

That one of the things you’re supposed to fix as the Hero.

You ARE taking this Persecution Complex a bit too far.

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Yep this, everyone goes to the maw, and yes one of our jobs next xpac is saving the souls there, blizzard comfirmed it.

Also, Tyrande/Elune stuff in Ardenwald.

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I’m looking forward to Ardenweald the most due to aesthetics alone. Any questlines having to do with Elune or the kaldorei would just be a cherry on top.

My main fear has nothing to do with the presence or lack thereof re: night elves. I’m mostly afraid it’s going to be another Val’sharah, where I get all excited to quest in a beautiful forest only to discover less than half of it is actually a beautiful forest. The majority being corrupted/dead/random Gilnean village/whatever. They’ve already said Ardenweald is the hardest hit zone from the lack of anima, so I’m a bit cautious already.

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This is always a bummer with nature themed zones. Half of it is usually dead when we arrive and we never get to see the beauty in full.

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Hopefully with new tech we can finally get some phasing reflecting our contribution to reparing these new zones.

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Agreed, but what was wrong with the Gilnean village in Val’sharah? I thought that was a need addition, and the quests there were really cool.

How dare other races expect to share zones with night elves!

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By definition, every game world has to be a Crap Sack world to some degree, suppling all those heroic deeds that demand your presence.

Also remember that nature isn’t always pretty, blood, rust, and rot are part of it as well. As my Blight Druid of Malar would remind you.

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Nothing really, just that the entire area was a windswept, hilly place. Combined with all the Emerald Nightmare corrupted areas, it was just more not-forest in the zone I had hoped would be mostly pristine forest.

My disappointment with Val’sharah had zero to do with night elves vs. non-night elves being there. I’m not quite sure how you even made that particular leap of logic since I didn’t mention night elves once in relation to Val’sharah.

Blizzard has a tendency to portray nature as this endlessly peaceful, wonderful thing in which no bad ever happens. Enchanted forests with just enough light to see clearly but dim enough to not hurt the eyes. Faeries and wisps floating about to watch over travelers and ensure there are no dangers here.

It is a beautiful interpretation of nature. The night elven interpretation in which predation is often acknowledged but rarely emphasized. Also the least true to what nature actually is.

I tend to prefer the trollish interpretation. Nature is savage and unrelenting. A constant state of struggle between the many forms of life that are all competing to survive. I prefer vast jungles filled with deadly snakes and large predators hidden amidst lush foliage and beautiful, winding rivers. A place where you can only stop to appreciate the wonders all around you after you have overcome the innate terror of the wilds and become one with the ecosystem. A predator among the prey.

Ardenweald definitely looks like the classic tranquil glade we’re used to from the night elven style of nature. However Blizzard has stated that this realm is based on the Unseelie. Fey in mythology are not the most kind of beings. I am expecting the night fey to be mischievous and even outright malicious at times and for Ardenweald as a whole to be a great beauty that masks a terrible danger underneath.

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I’m still missing how that equals me being upset that there were non-night elves in the zone. Especially since, in my original post, I started the paragraph by specifically saying my fears for Ardenweald had nothing to do with whether or not night elves were present, then used Val’sharah as an example.

Well, you consider worgen buildings a detraction from the forest, but make no mention to the tons of night elven ones.

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I consider the large area of hills and fields a detraction from the forest. Since it’s, you know, not a forest. It could’ve been a Sentinel base in the same region and I’d feel the same. The racial demographics of the area are utterly irrelevant.

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There was also a “random Night Elf fortress” in Val’sharah, which also wasn’t forest…

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