Wow… Thank God I don’t do “digital” art. I’m old school, I still work with Oils, Acrylics and Watercolors, and Charcoal Pencils. Also, if you own the copyright and someone uses your work without permission, you can be awarded triple damages.
NFTs are a scam. I know some are trawling DeviantArt for artwork and making them NFTs.
You can technically still sell your physical old fashioned art as a NFT. Physical goods have and do sell. Which is more sensible than just buying a digital copy of something that can be reproduced / coppied till the end of time.
I don’t see a problem with it.
For a long time marketplaces have existed that have allowed players to trade in-game items/skins for real $$. So the idea of items/skins having a real world value isn’t new. It just wasn’t supported by many of these games developers and so they weren’t getting a slice of the profits.
NFTs as they are being presented in games are essentially doing the same thing these markets have done, only they’re officially part of the games going forward, and there are actually a limited number of the items in question, unlike NFTs in art/music where anyone can make a copy.
Whole new meaning to the word E-pean lol
That has nothing to do with NFTs though.
That’s just implementing in-game support for user generated assets. You don’t have to use blockchain for those.
No, NFT is just a buzzword. A game publisher like Blizzard doesn’t need NFTs at all. They literally already sell you digital goods, they have a store for that. If they want to support user generated assets and user to user transactions, they also already have partially implemented that, remember the real money AH in Diablo.
That just leaves supporting uploading user generated assets in the game. Frankly, I don’t think WoW is ready for that. Imagine MS paint level art in the game.
Another issue I have with NFTs is there is no provenance. I technically can go on DA, snag someones digital illustration, make it a NFT.
From what I understand, owners of the original digital artwork are having a REAL difficult time proving ownership when they find their work being sold as an NFT. It’s why I don’t do digital only art, and especially post work online with out heavy watermarking. And if I do have to prove ownership, I got the original physical piece
I have gone to court 5 times over the past 30 years for people using my work without permission, and won each case. I show up with the original with the paperwork, then it’s done. Last time I had to do this, with was for a $1500 painting. I came out with $4500 and they had to pay the court costs.
That’s not what is happening with games and NFTs.
There is no ‘user generated asset’ in play. Take a look at what Ubisoft is doing with Ubisoft Quartz. Three items for their game Breakpoint. Each made by Ubisoft. There are limited numbers of each item (2000 rifle skins, 250 helmets, 600 pants), tied to the blockchain, each item has a unique serial number and a history of its past owners, and it can be freely sold on the market.
Each item can be used in-game as well. They are cosmetics that players can equip and show off, if they have them.
That’s what NFT in games is going to look like. It’s not going to be an extension of the already existing NFT system for art/music where you get a music track or image to trade. At least not from major developers/publishers.
Have you read up on it?
You are basically buying a web link that can, and does disappear leaving buyers with nothing. Since they never owned more than a web link, the real owners always win.
Yeah I have actually.
Which is why I said NFTs in games are not the same as NFTs in art/music.
Because they’re not.
Nothing is happening with games and NFTs. It’s just buzzwords.
Then NFTs aren’t actually useful. Old school payment processing for digital assets already exist, you buy mounts off the store today, no need for NFTs to come into play.
The thing that is so stupid, their users ridiculed them and shamed them over it ?
“Hey, grind hours in the game, we’ll grant you a skin you can post up on our real money auction house”.
That thing ?
See it’s the “tied to the blockchain” bit there. It’s useless. They could have done the same thing without tying anything to the blockchain. “First 600 players to play 600 hours get the pants”. Boom. No blockchain involved. Wanna trade it from an account to another ? Marketplace, again no blockchain.
Still don’t see how that requires a blockchain when it’s just a Ubisoft marketplace and a Ubisoft transaction history. You can keep track of that with INSERTs and UPDATEs in a very old school transactionnal database, except you don’t release 50 tons of carbon in the process.
Which can be revoked at anytime or users banned from their accounts. Nothing’s different from your in-game mount. What did the “NFT” part get you exactly ?
And it’s stupid, because it’s useless. We’ve literally had these digital skins forever. We’ve literally had stores to buy them, and we’ve even transferred digital items forever.
Adding the word “Blockchain” doesn’t make any of this new, it just makes it clickbaity for the Crypto crowd. There’s no value added for us as gamers here.
Again, Ubisoft is literally proving you wrong there.
People ridiculed them because they’re doing a stupid and see NFT and immediately think about the mess with art/music and started thinking they were the same thing when they’re not.
You mean play the game like… well, everyone actually does? I mean hell man, I’ve got over a thousand hours played in Civilization 5, I’ve got thousands of hours played in WoW. I never ‘grinded’ out those hours, I just played the game.
If Blizzard came out with an NFT system for their games tomorrow and said “2000 hours played will let you claim one of these 5000 skins.” I wouldn’t have ‘grinded’ those 2000 hours for those skins, I’d have that just by playing the game.
And as for the Ubisoft skins in particular, only one of them had a decent amount of hours attached to it, which was the helmet at 600 hours. The pants I believe only required 100 hours, and the rifle skin didn’t have any requirement for hours played attached to it.
The rest of your points are honestly redundant, so I’m not going to bother responding to them, or you, moving forward.
How ? By completely failing at implementing a complex scheme that would have been better off as a simple non-blockchain solution ?
Dude, the whole thing failed. Users aren’t into it. It’s dumb. It serves no actual purpose to use a blockchain for an entity that is a central authority. The whole idea behind a blockchain is a decentralized ledger of transactions. When everything you do goes through a central vendor, there’s no actual use to a blockchain other than to consume CPU cycles for nothing to calculate it.
No one plays that game. That’s why there’s like 10 total skins on their marketplace and none of them are really selling and moving.
You don’t need an NFT system for that. You can literally already do that with WoW’s current infrastructure. Tie a mount to the “Hall of Fame” achievements, boom, you got your “first 2000 players to complete this get this mount” thing, 0 NFTs involved. We have titles that work like this, literally. “Famed Slayer of …”.
Because your points are non-sensical kool-aid drinking. You don’t even understand what NFTs even do. It’s literally just a receipt that you own a digital asset. There’s no actual value in NFTs for a central authority because they literally control the database and can just write anything they want into it.
thanks for the post
The creators behind S.T.A.L.K.E.R. were about to release S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 with NFTs, but a lot of us pushed back against it, so much to the point they decided not to go through with it. The game releases in April this year to boot.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. OFFICIAL on Twitter: “https://t.co/mffnmpiQiw” / Twitter
Do not lose hope. There are companies and people that will listen.
NFT ownership is about as meaningful as those star registries from a while back where you could pay to have a star “named” after you, and maybe get a fancy looking certificate.
In other words, a way to separate gullible people from their money.
I own a 1’x1’ piece of property on the Moon. Spent $10 for it, got a nice deed and certificate to hang on the wall. Is it legal, probably not, but I do get some WTH comments when people read it.
Wow, … Claus Schwaab …you will own nothing and be happy.
Pretend by a digital video on amazon, …can’t download, if they cease to exist…you don’t own. The youth have no idea what that means.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
All the talk solely about art etc shows the naivety of the general pop.
This is the beginning stages of the tech. In 10 years your house deed, car ownership, loan etc will all be NFTs. It’s not just a money laundering proposition of ‘art’.
Non-Flushable Turds? I broke mine up after I used the outhouse in the garrison, that was Varian who left that, NOT me.
Ah good old NFT’s. The next evolution of scamming idiots too stupid to hold onto their money. A fool and his money are soon parted.