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Ironforge Dwarvs. Stormwind humans. Darnassus night elves. Those are never the targets in raids and dungeons because they have unbeatable plot armor.

Okay and? You said factions don’t matter

Literally what you stated while I went on full Pinketon mode and started to kill poor humans in Westfall.

So if it only matters that we kill factions members and not races, then you have zero problems with Goblins going back to the trade war amongst each other. Because only the Bilgewater Cartel are horde based, the rest want money from everyone.

stares at the upcoming anniversary dungeon.

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All Goblins should be Horde so Blizzarc can’t kill them anymore.

That is just a timewalking thing and not tied to the actual lore.

You do realize that means blizz will just kill them off even more than they already do?

Lets kill some gnomes or humans instead. Their plot armor is annoying.

I mean, we already kill humans all the time. Gnomes are an endangered species, let them breed before we hunt them for sport.

rofl, you funny.

Gnomes and plot armor. Never thought I would see those two things in the same sentence :rofl:

Gnomes aren’t even relevant in alliance content

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The problem they have always had is a large contingent of the staff (and player base) has always wanted the WC2 horde, so we end up with this “Murder of innocents is Honorable” WC2 Horde followed by apologetic WC3 horde as different factions internally take the wheel for awhile.

…most of them died in the RTS series thanks to first the Old Horde and then Arthas doing his thing. That is why we are down to two functional human kingdoms and a recently reclaimed protectorate state out of the original seven.

Gelbin and Erazmin are alive. Gallywix will soon die.

lol right? Gnomes are so soviat coded that they have their own Chernobyl. They radiated their own city and people.

I still love gnomes, because of their technology and how they use magic to make nuclear fusion energy. But I also love how much Goblins are American coded, 1920’s mafia industry types, and the gnomes are all Soviat based. Everything is for the community and technology is king. They also radiated their own city. I can make jokes about it.

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Gnomes died due to their own faults via radiation.

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The dude has such a warped perception on capitalism he’d make a tankie ask him to dial it back.

Gazlowe is the vehicle for a Henry Ford style escalation to lift the goblins out of the industrial era stagnation.

Edit: I hope they nail every aspect of henry ford too, I woukd love to send my highmoos to strikebust some pinko goblins.

Aye, the Bilgewater Cartel is basically a mafia/company town type of “clan”. Gazlowe is Henry Ford, minus the more evil aspects of aligning with fascism, that was Gallywix but Gallywix was all about lining his own pockets. Monte is more on the neutral side but became part of the horde because he literally did build up Orgrimmar with him and his union group. So he went horde but he doesn’t truly want to rule over everyone, can’t make a profit like that.

Lol that isn’t going to happen because one of the things different from Ford is that Monte is all about the Unions. That is why he took over Gallywix. Gallywix was the union buster.

Let’s make a deal. Don’t call henry ford fascist, And I don’t bring up the lawsuit that specifically brought about those quotes.
That was a very ugly time in American history and that lawsuit should have been thrown the hell out.

Not to mention ford started the first automotive union, there was a Pinkerton subversion who wanted to turn the union into a vehicle of communist revolution.

Edit: I want a full retelling of henry ford through gazlowe, because even his most idealistic notions can be subverted and will be subverted by goblin society for personal greed.

Mate, all of early capitalism was filled with dirtiness, and that is what makes it interesting. Also don’t need a lawsuit to say he was, he just was.

Pinkertons being as$es? You don’t say. But let us not sweep all the bad Henry Ford had. He wasn’t a good guy, but he wasn’t totally evil either. He was a product of his time. And his time was filled with amazing and dark fun.

He was complicated and I like that about Ford.

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And that is precisely the kind of goblin gazlowe needs to be. Idealistic values with realistic solutions.

The man is battling the grime of goblin society, he is not going to come out of it clean.
He’s going to come out of that covered in oil, grease, broken bones and bruises with a bodycount higher than a succubus.

Now it’s whether I have faith that blizzard can pull off that writing WITHOUT going full pinko.

Aye, That is what I want. I want Gazlowe to hire different people, pay them the same rate, but keep one caste lower than the rest. Is it dirty, yes, do they all get paid the same amount, probably, is it safe, probably not. But they do get paid, and that is capitalism, baby! 1800’s - 1900’s style!

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Let’s be honest a strike busting Dungeon/Delve would be hilarious and totally in character for the horde