I mean, the broker think it is the “great cycle”. An interesting note is the Broker’s cosmology chart is missing any mention about the Old Gods, Titans, Necromancy etc. Either his chart is not as detailed/does not think those forces are important enough to merit mention or he doesnt actually know enough about the physical world and his chart is actually flawed in its presentation.
Also, the titans’ chart give equal importance(an “orderly” chart if you will) to all the forces while the broker’s focus too much it seems on life and death.
They are signified: eagle represents the eagle wild god they worship (Thunderbird metaphor) and tribal identity (which continued with the Highmountain, each tribe as a totem and the federation combines them as is the case IRL)
Appropriation is done when it’s done without dignity of respect, the eagle motifs are handled respectfully.
We are told. The heritage armor explains that it is the regalia of the chieftains, decorated warriors, or people who the spirits have made clear are chosen and favored.
Nah Danuser’s writing of the Tauren is, how Metzen intended and wrote the universe until Cata was good.
A) Elune learned not the tauren her language…so…Mu’Sha is in the Language of the Tauren, still. And we don´t know…until today, maybe Mu’Sha in Tauraho means nothing more then…Elune.
But…i mean, wtf? Elune is the Maindeity of the Night elf since her introduction and for another race “good looking” this race should be now wrong?
And as far as i know…the Taurenwriter today is golden…she writes the taurennarrative. On Twitter she once said she writes baine (and the tauren got nothing more then baine at the moment)
I put the word “correct” in nitpick quotes for a reason, and went on to explain that if every culture had their own word for Elune and communed with her anyway, then it would mean that the goddess accepted them all. It’s not about making the night elves wrong.
As you said yourself, Elune responds to more names than just Elune, she also sends visions to the Zandalari believers and we know she was also active with the Tauren at one moment or another.
You don’t even have an argument other than “the horde should get something out of this figure too”, this figure wasn’t even invented for the horde, it’s just plain selfish to demand that for your side, your side mind you, the people why this whole deity was invented is wrong.
That would be just like if say dwarves worship Bwonsamdi, but they don’t call him Bwonsamdi but…I don’t know…Jolgren. So, Bwonsamdi Jolgren…would be the hit or?
No, of course not!
This has nothing to do with Simp but simple story telling. Something you have little idea expect “racism here, racism there”.
Imagine me, a Horde player, expecting any Horde-side lore to be developed within the larger cosmology, with any myths of any Horde-side races being treated with dignity and respect.
Uh, yes, the dwarves would be wrong, because Bwonsamdi has a real name. It’s Bwonsamdi. If anything, I think your example is more blatant because he didn’t even start out as a deity. He would have just been a troll named Bwonsamdi who was later elevated. So these hypothetical dwarves either never got his real name (despite other people learning it from him), or they refuse to use it.
Didn’t the orcs think that Goldrinn was the same wild god they revered back on Draenor? Though I vaguely remember talking to someone else about this and that might have been retconned out too; it’s hard to keep track of these things.
Oh, that wasn’t my argument, so don’t twist it here.
My argument was and is: “Just because Elune is the right name, that’s not SO bad as you make it out here and this big tragedy”.
And because of that…they would believe less in him, and be worth less? Because that’s the consequence you draw from it, Elune sees the Tauren and Zandalari as less worthy because they don’t call her Elune? Is that how it works now?
Thats the point, to demand a portion of a deity (not invented) isn´t the problem ,the Problem is to invalidate the entire transaction history.
In other words, having a piece of the cake Elune is not a problem at all, it starts exactly when this piece of the cake Elune is based at the expense of the previous story and especially of the race for which the whole character was originally invented.
That would be just like if I were to propose Bwonsamdi as a character for many races (also a true deity) but then demand that afterwards I want the trolls (who have always believed in him since he existed as loa) to be partly wrong…because the other races should also get something.
And I’m pretty sure many - especially baal here - would have been terribly upset if the Tauren had simply named her moongoddess Elune and the Zandalari aswell (“Blizzard is so unimaginative, they even have to steal night elf deities”) or some other argument here would have worked, because that’s just not right after all.
That’s exactly how I interpret it. They seem like second-class worshipers who can’t even get the name of their deity right. Although again, the Lun’alai seem to come closer.
And I get that Elune’s mega-important to night elves and all, so I’m not even expecting the tauren to ever be at the forefront of that kind of content. But Blizzard didn’t develop An’she either, so they just putter around being worthless.
If Mueh’zala had been revealed to be an Eternal One this expansion, I would have fully expected him to be “revealed” to have ties to various Alliance races (e.g. Kul Tirans, Dwarves, and more). I would have welcomed it.
You are speculating and also incorrect.
That is literally how it works lmao
Elune revealed her real name to Night Elves. She did not choose to do so to Tauren and Trolls (or, allegedly, Orcs and Kul Tirans)
