And thats no argument either…this resistence racial als lorereason to back up an very very very vague quest that could be implied in many directions.
The argument then hots up in logic when you look into the Twillight Cultist BLock and see many…many. …many undead that are just as insane as the rest.
It was the Lich King who protected the undead under his entity from Yogg’Saron’s mindfck, it wasn’t the “being undead” that protected them from it.
There’s nothing saying those undead didn’t join voluntarily, and even if they didn’t I never claimed Undead are immune to Shadow magic: they aren’t, they’re just resistant to it, not vulnerable to it like you originally tried to imply.
I never even brought up Yogg Saron; my point was that Undead characters literally have a racial called Shadow Resistance, but the fact that Death Knights are still using Saronite even after cutting themselves off from the Lich King seems to contradict this.
The point is, these races have the Racial also, there was NEVER; NEVER anything in the direction at all only hinted. If anything the opposite, since Lightforged have nothing to fear more than colliding with a Void Agent to play big bang 2.0 and Worgen were heavily influenced by the emerald Nightmare as we know from Alpha Prime.
In fact, we know that Saronite is highly effective against the undead and completely destroy their spirit and body. And that is only the blood of an old god.
It’s not hinted, it’s outright stated on their racial.
They’re enemies of course the Lightforged don’t like the Void, and the Alpha Prime wasn’t corrupted by the nightmare he was corrupted because Goldrinn’s rage just drove him insane.
That was only the beginning, later he was further corrupted by the nightmare in a terrible way.
And this argument means nothing because other races have the same benefit of an racial BUT…this never applied to them in the same way. And as i said before.
No he wasn’t. There was no mention of the Nightmare in his story.
? It applies to them in the exact same way. They’re resistant to Shadow magic, but not immune.
Saronite is effective against anyone; it destroys your soul. That’s not an argument for Undead being particularly vulnerable to Shadow Magic.
saronite is…shadow magic, and infact…its strange, saronite destroyed not sylvanas soul, i mean, she was straight send to the maw after her suicid.
It applies to them in no way, because - according to 1000 years of war - they are even most vulnerable to voidmagic, no magic is more dangerous for them then voidmagic. (And they have the racial…you know ;))
It seemed to be able to according to Sylvanas. Why she still has a spirit, who knows.
It’s never stated that Void magic is the most dangerous magic to them. Simply that it’s a danger, which it is, because it’s their natural enemy. In the same way that the Scourge is a danger to Paladins even if they’re resistant to undeath.
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So… this is what the current narrative team considers “refined cosmology”?..
I need a few minutes to collect my thoughts.
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But I also wonder at this point, what did you expect? They work with the same forces but in a different way.
The biggest difference here, is not the use of forces, but the symbol of chains. Every force is CHAINED To the ouroboros and not free.
the great cycle is like a prison, according to the brokers pov. The other interesting part…the Shadowlands (Death) itself are also a prison and chained, only …life remains free from this.
I mean, it’s in line with all the blizzconline hype around the post raid cinematic as something that changes everything™, and how underwhelming it was in reality.
Same thing is here. A lot of talk. Next to nothing there.
On the original chart there were tiny details that were discussed even years after release. Such as buildings that look like manaforges on the Disorder side of the map. Or Emerald Dream looking like Petri dish. And how those elements or related characters manifest in the fictional universe.
And here it’s like… It exists. It’s called “refined”. And IMO it’s a blasted downgrade from the scale and depth of the former works.
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also this new cosmo chart supposed to be “zoomed out” version, showing more stuff. Butt…
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I know I just woke up, but I can’t be the only one to notice the second page on the right, with Life(nature) and Order to the side. Or am I missing something here? Is there multiple cosmology charts in the book?
There are 2 side by side.
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Is one what the Brokers think it is and one what the Titan editor thinks? I just don’t know how anyone can be excited for this stuff anymore.
i think the only interesting part about this maps is the meaning of the chains 
tbh.
The new one is from brokers, the old one is what the brokers got from a living soul from Azeroth, whatever that means.
It’s just a confirmation to me, that the current team praises themselves, and considers their job to be good. But I look at it and fail to see any improvement.
So much ground work, improved tools, experience, fan-base. And yet, it’s just… I don’t know how to compare. IMO the storytelling nowadays is a downgrade from what was done before them.
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Also, the language used for the “refined” cosmology is spectacular:
A living soul from Azeroth showed me a tome… containing an elaborately painted illustration she claimed to be an accurate representation of how the cosmic powers related to one another. I must say, despite the extensive training I completed in order to interact favorably with the mortal races, it was all I could do to muffle my derisive laughter!
Giving away too much hubris?
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So instead of the great battle between Light and Shadow, they are merely minor players in a greater fight between Death and Life.
This is in stark contrast to the original cosmic chart, with Death, Order and Light all in the same trinity.
The chart design isn’t all that odd compared to what we knew.
It is just designed from the perspective of Death, so of course they put themselves as the most important player (with their counterpart) in the cosmological chart.
From the Titanic chart perspective Light and Void are more important because they blend to create material reality. To a native being of Death like a Broker they are just two of six forces, which they are totally disconnected from.
Each cosmic force’s planar natives are likely to argue for a different arrangement which makes them most important. It is all perspective now, really.
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Yes it’s this
Because Metzen respected the world but more importantly respected and knew about all the cultures the world is based upon
Yup
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notice the closed loop circuit between Emerald Dream - Azeroth - Shadowlands is nowhere to be seen.
PS - its there in the center…behind the Great Cycle.