New Tyrande stuff

[Gantrithor-myzrael]

Revenge (Vengeance) + Justice = Retribution

[Pelinal-goldrinn]

Tyrande is Becoming Maiev pre legion, but This time Blizzard is using the Maiev became mad with revenge plot with her.

[Renat-moon-guard (Renat)]

@Katiera-moon-guard

btw you have to join the ardenweald covenant to do the voljin and tyrande stories

Well that settles which one I’m picking.

[Reignac-wyrmrest-accord (Reignac)]

@Kaileath-wyrmrest-accord

Well… Revenge sometimes contains Justice, but Justice is not always found in Revenge. Or all that often, actually.

It looks like Tyrande has perhaps been so overwhelmed by a compulsion to seek her revenge per the demands of the Night Warrior ritual that she has lost her ability to see what she is doing is not helping those she undertook the ritual to avenge anymore. Her seeking Justice has warped into just a blind desire of Vengeance, consequences be damned.

Considering all we have are the stages of the scenario I’m not going to go and say this is absolutely what’s happening just yet, but I’m definitely concerned it’s where the story is headed.

I don’t even like Tyrande, nor do I think revenge brings justice, but I still don’t want her to go down that road because it would mean Blizzard is prepping the villain bat after we just had an expansion of players complaining about that.

[Dreadmoore-wyrmrest-accord (Dreadmoore)]

@Galenar-khazgoroth

It’s like people have no empathy whatsoever

I have absolutely -100 empathy for night elf characters after being on these forums for essentially all of BFA.

[Kaileena-the-scryers (Kaileena)]

@Nightlighter-quelthalas

I don’t want to be refused by Tyrande. I want to join her wherever she goes.
I just hope I’m not forced to be against her in any way!

Same. I just want my favorite character to be ok.

[Kisin-moon-guard (Kisin)]

As one of the more vocal Horde posters who was opposed to working with Tyrande when this was first announced I’d actually be fine working with her at this stage.

We have confirmation that we’ll be working alongside Vol’jin and a few loa in Ardenweald as well. This zone is definitely not as Night Elf-centric as Val’Sharah was. If we’re helping both a Horde leader and an Alliance leader with their stuff I’d consider that pretty balanced and a fair trade.

[Katiera-moon-guard (Katiera)]

@Kisin-moon-guard

We have confirmation that we’ll be working alongside Vol’jin

That was known from the start (The achievement was datamined a few builds ago), and not saying it was you, but horde posters went crazy that it wasnt not acceptable to help alliance at all.

[Jellex-wyrmrest-accord (Jellex)]

A lot of other people wanted this for their favorite character, too.

@Kisin-moon-guard

As one of the more vocal Horde posters who was opposed to working with Tyrande when this was first announced I’d actually be fine working with her at this stage.

Even if she goes around trashing you while you quest with her? While Vol’jin probably thanks the Alliance player for helping him out? No thanks.

[Katiera-moon-guard (Katiera)]

@Jellex-wyrmrest-accord

Even if she goes around trashing you while you quest with her?

we dont even know if this is happening lol, and knowing blizzard the laziest company in the world they wont bother to make new voice lines

[Kisin-moon-guard (Kisin)]

@Jellex-wyrmrest-accord

Even if she goes around trashing you while you quest with her? While Vol’jin probably thanks the Alliance player for helping him out? No thanks.

Tyrande wasn’t enough to make me dislike Val’Sharah. I seriously doubt she’ll make me hate Ardenweald. At worst I can can skip her dialogue or organize my bags while she’s talking if it is really bad.

What annoyed me about the Tyrande reveal was it felt like it’d be another moment where I, as a Horde player, would be forced to work alongside the Alliance if I wanted to be heroic. As if the Horde characters don’t matter against cosmic threats and we as Horde characters are nominally Alliance whenever we want to save the world.

The fact Vol’jin is there too with his own storyline relieves that concern of feeling like the Horde is being marginalized the second the focus shifts to more druidic, neutral content. At least as far as Ardenweald goes.

[Jellex-wyrmrest-accord (Jellex)]

I can’t say I share your optimism, but I’m not going to begrudge you.

[Grandblade-wyrmrest-accord (Grandblade)]

@Xamantul-ragnaros

Looks like Tyrande is going to bite the dust in this expansion.

Nothing says that yet.

[Kaileena-the-scryers (Kaileena)]

@Jellex-wyrmrest-accord

Even if she goes around trashing you while you quest with her? While Vol’jin probably thanks the Alliance player for helping him out? No thanks.

I don’t see the issue with that. As a horde player why would you expect her or any other alliance leader to be nice to you at all? Wouldn’t you rather the character stay true to their personality and the events of the game instead of situational behavior?

@Xamantul-ragnaros

Looks like Tyrande is going to bite the dust in this expansion.

It will be the end of my time here.

[Jellex-wyrmrest-accord (Jellex)]

@Kaileena-the-scryers

I don’t see the issue with that. As a horde player why would you expect her or any other alliance leader to be nice to you at all? Wouldn’t you rather the character stay true to their personality and the events of the game instead of situational behavior?

I’d rather not interact with her at all.

[Sarm-malganis (Sarm)]

@Kaileena-the-scryers

I don’t see the issue with that. As a horde player why would you expect her or any other alliance leader to be nice to you at all? Wouldn’t you rather the character stay true to their personality and the events of the game instead of situational behavior?

I think the problem is Blizzard writing a story where the horde player gets grouped up with Tyrande in the first place. Like, why is that necessary to add? Is it purely being done just for the writers to rub it in?

It felt annoying enough in Val’sharah, after her dialogue was already watered down once and without a major attack on the night elves by the horde. This just seems like it’s worse in every way.

[Kaileena-the-scryers (Kaileena)]

Which is ok too. If anything the two factions should have similar quests with their respective leader but if there is a crossover said leader should treat the opposing faction accordingly.

@Sarm-malganis

I think the problem is Blizzard writing a story where the horde player gets grouped up with Tyrande in the first place. Like, why is that necessary to add? Is it purely being done just for the writers to rub it in?

I totally agree.

@Sarm-malganis

It felt annoying enough in Val’sharah, after her dialogue was already watered down once

Which shouldn’t have happened but people were so butt hurt over it.

@Sarm-malganis

This just seems like it’s worse in every way.

It is worse.

[Sarm-malganis (Sarm)]

Well to be perfectly honest, I prefer the watered down dialogue over the original. Yeah, maybe the first version fit her personality more, but I’m not going to value the dialogue of an NPC (that I’m not meant to relate to in the first place) over my own enjoyment.

[Jellex-wyrmrest-accord (Jellex)]

@Kaileena-the-scryers

Which shouldn’t have happened but people were so butt hurt over it.

Were you around for 5.3, when Blizzard not only gave the option for Alliance players to make Vol’jin grovel, but also went out of their way to point out the “stench” and “missing teeth” in the text description of him?

This is a two-way street, is what I’m saying. If Tyrande was a harpy to the Horde player and Vol’jin mocked the Alliance player, I might consider it a fair trade and be done with it.

[Knami-anathema]

You do understands that our characters don’t actually exist or accomplish anything in the game’s lore, right? We’re just roving cameras from which we can ooooh and ahhhh over the writers’ favorite NPC’s.