New torghast first look in 9.1

[Pebrock-kelthuzad]

So this entre time you basing this on an assumption. Please, next time just say that instead of wasting my time.

[Anansi-farstriders]

I already like Torghast, and I’m interested in seeing the adjustments and that talent tree, but I won’t lie: I’m not big on scoring aspects. Give me something hard and let me fight to complete it, I’m not here to enter my initials!

[Normercy-aggramar (Normercy)]

@Moslek-suramar

Because I highly doubt that taking your time to clear each and every single room possible will net you four stars. No one knows for sure, but based on what I’m reading that is how it looks.

Theres nothing that was written that points to that direction other than “speed score”. Theres also mention of “chain kills” and “total collected souls” and “urns” which point to a different measure of success that you cant achieve with speed. I get your point of view if you have just decided to assume the worst for your taste.

[Carhagen-moon-guard (Carhagen)]

@Moslek-suramar

Because it says so right in the notes provided at the beginning of this thread. You didn’t read any of that before commenting?

“While the UI for the Scoring system isn’t fully set up yet on the PTR, you’ll need to achieve a score of at least 4 stars on the final scoreboard to unlock the next layer.”

Since the scoring system isn’t active yet, we don’t know how fast the bar will increase or decrease as you play. So Pebrock could be right in the sense that there will be multiple ways to clear a layer, quick, focusing only on what you need to do, and slow and methodical, where you slaughter everything.

By the sound of it, your overall time that it took you to clear the layer is going to play a big factor, so theoretically, you could get through the level fast, speed run style, and get 4 stars because you were quick and got a record time, or you can clear everything and boost your score by adding more monster deaths to the tally.

We also don’t know how the talent system will play into Torghast and stage completion.

Basically TL:DR - It’s too early to say for sure.

[Moslek-suramar]

@Yonbi-illidan

My understanding is that it isn’t a timer that will kick you out - more so just like bonus points for chain pulling/killing. So a soft timer I guess. I can live with this.

To each his own. Not being able to go up the next layer because you didn’t clear it fast enough just makes this another form of mythic plus.

[Normercy-aggramar (Normercy)]

@Moslek-suramar

Not being able to go up the next layer because you didn’t clear it fast enough just makes this another form of mythic plus.

It didnt say the timer was paramount to moving on. You keep ignoring this.

[Fredfelstone-proudmoore]

Cool more mythic+ style esport timer garbage…

[Ignistorm-stormrage]

At least with visions you could get some decent gear out of them.

Just more garbage from shadowlands.

[Çlark-emerald-dream]

You’ll still run them no matter what, everyone will regardless

[Dalfurane-frostmourne (Dalfurane)]

@Çlark-emerald-dream

At the end of the run, you’ll be scored on a 5 star system based on the above factors. If you achieve at least 4 stars, you’ll unlock the next layer!

This is possibly the worst decision ever made.

I loved Torghast and defended it but completing a layer should allow you to unlock another layer.

Not this weirdo stuff

[Lyrania-wyrmrest-accord]

If going to Torghast doesn’t move the plot along somehow, I’m done with it. The only reason I ever went in there before was to find Jaina/Thrall/Baine/Anduin, and now that we KNOW Anduin isn’t even there, why on Earth would I go back?

[Emanu-dalaran]

Doesn’t matter what they do at this point. SL is a bust and this won’t help matters. The Maw and Torghast are failures.

[Sentenza-alexstrasza]

@Dalfurane-frostmourne

I loved Torghast and defended it but completing a layer should allow you to unlock another layer.

It prevents people who died twenty times just barely beating Layer 8 going onto Layer 9. Basically, keeping people within “the fun zone”.

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I posted on the other Torghast thread on GD that I’ve played it on the PTR. It’s fun. I did ~5 runs and the only time I didn’t get a 5-star rating was when I skipped almost everything on the floor and went straight to the exit. As long as you kill everything and don’t die too much you get 5 star.

@Pebrock-kelthuzad

How do you know going slow and efficient won’t unlock the next layer?

Going slow and efficient is literally the best way to play as far as I’ve seen. Skipping stuff is bad. Souls and elites fill your score multiplier the most. You want to kill everything and not die as far as I’ve seen.

But “going slow” does not mean “take 15 minutes on one floor”.

[Moob-remulos]

Gotta get moreghast of that Torghast, ain’t no choreghast or even a boreghast.

Someone help me

[Sentenza-alexstrasza]

@Çlark-emerald-dream

Sounds familiar, madness debuffs in horrific visions, where the more masks you put on (aka layers here), the more debuffs you get, no more stacking

That’s basically how it works.

I like the spinning eye lasers.

The Avenger effect combo’d with Claustrophobia is kind of gnarly though. It’d be like combo’ing bolstering with undispelable enraging. I’ve been 1 shot by a Dreadlord who got bolstered by some trash, not really a huge fan of that - gotta be super careful not to bolster elites (or if you do, you need to kill them fast - each bolster gives them 10% damage and 10% haste).

[Virus-nagrand (Virus)]

I’m in the same boat, if going slow (my usual speed) is going to mean that i don’t get any rewards from the new system, i’ll just stop going all together with. As it is now, i kinda enjoy it (even though the reward structure sucks) but if it turns into a weekly race, i want no part in it.

[Raedwald-duskwood]

@Grumbles-hellscream

more reasons

So, what you’re saying is never leave layer 3 right? Got it.

Also, NB4 hidden profile alts all bust in saying layer 12 is too easy

[Locûtus-kelthuzad]

I really hope there is an afk friendly application into this.

[Moslek-suramar]

@Sentenza-alexstrasza

Going slow and efficient is literally the best way to play as far as I’ve seen. Skipping stuff is bad. Souls and elites fill your score multiplier the most. You want to kill everything and not die as far as I’ve seen.

But “going slow” does not mean “take 15 minutes on one floor”.

Ok cool. Long as I can play at my own pace and still gain ground I’m fine with it.

[Aristotlé-tichondrius]

Did you still get at least 4 stars(enough to move on) when avoiding the majority of the floors?

also only floors 9-12 award the new ash currency to upgrade lego past 235 correct?

@Sentenza-alexstrasza

I posted on the other Torghast thread on GD that I’ve played it on the PTR. It’s fun. I did ~5 runs and the only time I didn’t get a 5-star rating was when I skipped almost everything on the floor and went straight to the exit. As long as you kill everything and don’t die too much you get 5 star.