New system in place

No, it’s still extremely popular.

Protection dream dead already?

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I usually end up agreeing w Kennie on most things, thats one sly crafty fox.

I used to rely on getting into RBG groups to get my conquest vault cap, now I can Que some RSS and its too easy. 2s and 3s was always a drag, find a partner they bail after one game, and its back to finding groups again till you just give up. It was a massive hassle just to get a single game going.

I am Team RSS all the way, its fun fights, salty people, things in the chat that make you spry coffee on your monitor laughing. 3v3 arena is now just for gladiators, like going to the gym now days, its just a daycare for young adults to stare at themselves in the mirror / show off their ratings lol.

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Just being able to press a button and get thrown into games is fun. Now if only queues were a bit shorter…

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Deflection from you and from the problem that is Solo shuffle wasting Devs resources that we already don’t have enough of. PvP has been in a atrocious state for many expansions and wasting efforts on Solo shuffle isn’t improving it.

It’s actually not. M+ helped ruin this game just like Rifts did in D3. We all see how that game turned out. Same is happening here and the Devs stole M+ idea from Rifts. It’s like they never learn. Now the game has a focus on M+ which has helped destroy it just like the game the idea was taken from.

Thankfully we have legacy servers like tbc for quality gameplay that the players care for.

Keys are extremely popular, though. If they gave better loot I imagine they’d even further damage raiding. Trying to argue that Keystones aren’t extremely popular/successful is just…peculiar.

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Was super obvious that something like this would happen, that’s why it was a terrible idea in the first place.

Literally can’t wait for end of season griefing once r1’s are secured.

There is Wpvp every day! Just chill out at the pvp daily quest area, always players for you to pounce on. Why wait to the end of the season?

They aren’t popular though. Players have consistently griped about feeling forced to do this pillar of content due to gearing and hating it’s toxicity. M+ definitely ruined WoW and it’s community for the worse. The game was far better before M+ and it could be better again if they remove M+

Get back to better and more simplistic progression and design that was the model for a successful and better MMO.

If you want to see how popular M+ is then remove the gear from it like Arena. Have it be a competition mode only for Seasonal titles and mounts. Like Arena.

M+ isn’t popular. That is like saying Korthia was a popular Zone because people needed to be there.

PS - Remove the Toxic Great Vault too. That also has helped destroy the game. There is no need for RNG weekly chest. It’s bad and always will be. There should just be Vendors for PvE and PvP.

All of this is common sense though really. Hope this game gets some common sense sooner than latter. It’s been nearly 7 years since Blizz has made a good game.

Like, half of all players have done a +15 and 15-25% get keystone master each season.

I used to enjoy M+ allot, but since the gear is no good in PvP there is no need to do them. except for transmog.

I wish PvE gear was good in PvP, gear stat combinations, sick trinkets…

Remember, just because something has extreme participation doesn’t mean that people actually do it.

This is another problem. PvP gear is total trash. It couldn’t be more boring. Again we need Resil so Versa isn’t in the way of making builds. Also PvE gear should be an option to help make more unique builds. This is why PvP was so much better in old expansions.

We had variety, unique builds, More Tier options/trinkets, PvP stat. So you could run some PvE items make a cool build but at a cost of losing PvP stats. It was a fair trade and better design.

dumb idea if u check my post history u can see me say that heaps
but the -150mmr might be enough to stop a lot of the leavers on its own

best idea i feel was stop the ability to leave, and if they alt’f4 just make the timer before they get kicked out from dc longer so game could still complete

Okay and 100% of players did Korthia despite it being the worst zone ever made. Just because someone does something doesn’t mean it’s popular, fun or good for the game.

You gonna tell me breathing is popular next like we have a choice? Stop :man_facepalming: :weary:

M+ has been hated more and more with each expansion since they neglect the game and making actual content. Again the game was better before M+ and it will be better if they removed it. If M+ was removed the Devs might be able to focus on making a good game finally.

PS - Again remove the toxic vault weekly chest have been a plague for too long. Bring back Resil. Get rid of PvP auras. Every ability should work the same in PvE and PvP.

keys are awful, mr kennie

You’re still doing like 2-3 a day, though. :dracthyr_tea:

There’s always just not doing it which is fine for most raiders and all pvpers.

I agree w Kenny, I think its ALL fun content. As PvPers I think we all need to not take it serious, Blizz loves its PvE, as for pvp, we are just a side game down there with pet battles and fishing lol.

Wpvp is where you find the pvp fun… I gank n camp gathering bots all the time in between RSS queues lol.

I mean I guess PvP ratings are special but not outside of wow… Join the fortnite or diablo chat and say you are 2400 in wow, they will probably start making fun of you and say go back to wow lol. On the bright side there is always Raid shadow legends and my personal favorite, Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

Yea but people are just afking now after losing the first 2, especially healers, and this means the dps go 3-3 and gain 0 rating.

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I dont understand, why not try to at least get in one more win for a few more points?

Its hella frustrating when you join a group that just tunnels you, or you join a group thats mostly folks on Glad mounts highly coordinated… Please explain to me how going AFK will help them?

As a healer, if we lose the first 2 games, its better to just go all out dps and have the rest of the games over in 20 secs each and just instant que again.

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