New Specs (No More Classes)

gladiator
2h/shield, classic spartan look, that sort of thing.

void knight. if paladins are priests that were trained in martial combat (plus being infused with the light), what would a shadow priest trained in combat look like?

this is unpopular, but a 4th spec for mages could be necromancer.

now hear me out. Necromancy is a school of arcane magic, not fel magic. (but also it’s its own magic? shadowlands is dumb). Kel’thuzad, the most famous necromancer was a mage.

Blizz can’t keep the specs within 30% of each other, and when you tell them the spec is 20% off the top spec they say it’s “fine.”

However, blizz is not known for its logical or realistic decision making. For SL there was nothing done to the specs and there was no specs added. Most players found this to be incredibly boring after realizing the content was poor.

Acknowledging how fascinated blizz is with wokism and race, I am sure they will add another race or so next xpac. If they do add any specs, it may be a 3rd demon hunter spec, the highly requested return of ranged Survival hunter, or even a desired 4th warrior Gladiator spec. I highly doubt it, tho.

With the next xpac all but confirmed as a dragon xpac, I’m pretty positive it will just include more boring races with dragon themes. The specs will be just as gutted as before and imo they will make a dragon oriented borrowed power. Nothing spec wise will change and the same spec issues we have had over the last 5-10 years will still be here by the end of 10.2.5

Totally agree, 4th specs where it makes sense.
A new class is just going get and take from things that should have or did belong to other specs.

Yesss. Bring back combat and turn outlaw into a tank spec.

Speak for yourself. I’d happily take Bard-Rogue spec or Necromancy as a DK spec. Tinker though is a cancer that I hope never comes to this game.

I would kill for, say, a time based healing spec on my Mage. :slight_smile:

I’d actually like to see them go the other way, reduce the specs. Pure dps classes like hunters and mage ----> one spec, with flavors of the three current specs in them. Priest? One spec. Why do you need 2 heal specs and a dps spec? You don’t. Return DKs to their original form, swap in and out of Unholy, Frost and Blood auras as needed.

How would Blizz accomplish this? That’s right, bring back the talent tree but modernized and then roll that up into horizontal progression at max level and get rid of borrowed powers. Balance it all on at a tier level of the talent tree.

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You quoted me but I didn’t say that.

“Tinker and dark ranger supporters don’t want their ideas as another hunter spec” I didn’t say that. I’m against that.

Look at the topic title!

i just said this yesterday, i think, in another one of those tinker threads. no don’t need more monkey wrenches; balance and expand on what we have now to make more fun.
+1

If it’s fun that is. Right now the Specs needs to have something in terms of Variety.

Like I actually would want to see a Spec for Priests to use the light as a dps option, Mages in terms of having mix of Light and Void kind of like a Dusk Mage or a Black and White Mage user, Rogues can actually do ranged combat with bows, crossbows, guns, and even pistols specially pistols as a gunslingers or Ranged Rogues, Warlocks can finally have the Necromancer Spec for years, Blademaster would be something like for Monks in terms of having a Two handed sword with set monk abilities, and etc.

I agree with this. I’d like to see some more specs added to existing classes as well.

If necromancers are truly hopeless as a class, I’m kind of fond of the idea of merging the specific “necromancer as a caster” identity with the overall warlock identity. Necrolytes were thing in the Shadow Council, Old Horde, and the Burning Legion. One could really argue that necromancers are just warlocks that specialize in death magic. Gul’dan himself, after all, was a potent necromancer.

This could be accomplished by adding new abilities (preferably in the form of optional talents) that grant warlocks various forms of necromancer abilities, like summoning undead in place of demons. This would call back to the fact that warlocks are not strictly fel specialists, but will resort various forms of dangerous and forbidden magics such as void/shadow/and even sprinklings of death here and there. The Black Harvest quests had warlocks studying various sources of power other than fel and demons. There is no reason warlocks could not tap into the power of necromancy.

A class skin could work to, but that will always feel lazy to me (more power to blizz if they could make it work though) and a new spec feels somewhat redundant.

On the other hand I think, a caster necromancer spec for death knights could make sense as well.

There is a surprising amount of potential and lore justification for a ranged necromancer spec for death knights more focused on demo style summoning of hordes of undead while Unholy can keep the summoning it already has and maybe focus more on dots.

Lore wise, elite necromantic spellcasters summoning hordes of undead is literally what second war death knights were. Arthas was fused and armed with Ner’zul’s knowledge, and Ner’zul had some of those Death Knights serving him, so it would make sense to allow Scourge death knights to channel that second war style DK and focus more on necromancy where they might lack physical might.

Moreover, I would say it actually enhances current death knight lore. The lore for death knights is that they are fallen champions reanimated by the lich king during the 3rd and 4th war by Arthas and Bolvar respectively (Objectively superior chad 3rd war vet death knight player reporting).

The thing is, this only really makes sense to me if these fallen champions were warriors, paladins, maybe rogues and enhancement shamans and other melee classes/specs. Yet I think it is implied that these fallen champions could have been any class in life. It will never cease to bother me in this weird little way in how characters like Sally Whitemane go from a cloth wearing spell slinging priest to a plate armored sword wielding warrior, undead or otherwise. Sure, it’s perfectly possible to change your class in lore, that’s basically how we got paladins; however, becoming a death knight isn’t exactly like going from a priest to a paladin, it’s not exactly a job-change.

So, this idea of a spellcaster death knight spec is actually more sensible than most people give it credit for. It would make sense that death knights that were once spellcasters would apply the powers they were given in death similarly to the way they applied them in life, effectively reviving the concept embodied by second war death knights as elite, sinister, spellcasting, necromancers. All while fulfilling a frequently requested class fantasy.

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Yup, i need my pure Holy dmg Inquisitor Lightforge Draenei Priest

Yes and no, I think with a new class, they can introduce a new combat for them. But having more ‘specs’ instead is OK in my book if it isn’t just a skin so to speak.

The demon hunter brought in a fun new way of fighting that is cool for like 5 minutes but it’s on the right track if they can expand on it.

But honestly, having specs is killing it for me, I’d love a more ‘class’ feel. Too much segmented spec shenanigans that takes away from a class feeling whole and fun.

This…doesn’t sound that bad really, on that same note you could technically get a san’layn style blood mage and give people vampire cosmetics to go along with it. Blood troll for trolls and Zandalari who want blood mage stuff. We could technically also have a class skin for like paladins where they wield void instead of light. Honestly…so much potential for this concept and it could fix some issues ones may have or even unlock classes for races that currently can’t be them. I’d love to see a sort of blue dragon or ice dragon style frost mage class skin where my mage can get like horns and such or even just mages in general and they recolor the dragon’s breath ability blue for the fire mages uses the skin

It’s been over 5 years since the last class came out and we pay them a sub fee every month…

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Give priests a cleric spec.

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I apologize I must’ve messed up in copying.

Priest or Paladin needs range holy dps.
Oh and give me range Hpal back please.

please.
and im one that loves player choice. But they cant keep the ones we have working right. i dont even want to talk about hunter pet AI doing what its been doing the last 4 days. lol. stupid mutts.
until they get this crap working perfectly, please dont add more to have to keep track of.

Dual-revolver/pistol hunter class please. Bounty hunter-esque.

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