New short story

Gazlowe and Noggenfogger are both confirmed as trade princes in this short.

Marin is a great alchemist and he was the first goblin hero class back in WC 3. I like him. Hopefully he joines the Horde too.

This short story has reinforced my belief that a good subsection of Horde fans does want the Horde to remain evil, greedy and incompetent.

Like this shows a way for Goblins to remain profit driven but in a somewhat more positive way but they would prefer the destruction and short sighted “goblin way”.

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That is the goblin way. Blizzard needs to stop humanize races that doesn’t even exist. It is not that hard. If I wanted human I made one in the creation screen but I chose the Horde to be different.

When a race full of diehard coperate shills suddenly talks about workers rights you need to worry really hard.

Erevien being “most horde players” is almost “happy healing fireballs of love” levels of dumb.

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One of the most liked post about this short story on the general forums is a complaint about how they are making the goblins a goody goody two shoes race. You guys would know that if you left the echo chamber around here: Warcraft Short Story: "The Goblin Way" - #3 by Teylari-wildhammer

It is long over due.

Gallywix is a fun character, and exemplifies the most egregious Goblin Characteristics.

But the Playable Goblins are not that.

Hey, I love Gallywix, but the only reason he stayed in power was because Thrall said so.

That never sat well with me, anyway.

Horde Goblins should be a bit more friendly than Gallywix. If Gallywix is “peak Goblin”… maybe that is what makes Horde Goblins different.

I am fine with that story line being explored.

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And Goblins are that too. And it was funny to play as. I want to have fun when playing a GAME not to think about real life activism that defeats corperate greed against planned state economy.

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oh no, not general discussion, the same forum that was freaking out about the beach chair being woke and ruining wow.

That whole 14 people hearting that post, half having blue backgrounds, clearly confirms your priors in a way none can argue with

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You mean the person who comes off more like “hyper aggressive Alliance partisan trolling as what they think a horde fan sounds like” doesn’t represent the horde?

oh no, 15 people, with at least 1/3 of them blue backgrounded liked a post about an idea where a good chunk of the crying about it seems to be culture war inspired because workplacce safety is a communist plot to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids?

Thread seems split, some people don’t like it some do. Silly to try and pigeon hole the factions from that.

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Posted in the wrong thread.

Did I say every Horde fans wants this? No. But there are enough, at the very least enough want the goblins to remain short sighted, profit driven capitalist.

Hell, the same person is even going on about how the Horde should remain this evil force because the Horde seems to have less cities destroyed.

You cant deny being evil has been part of the Horde’s story and thata good chunk of its players chose it to be “evil”. Hell, forsaken fans still seem to enjoy their canibalism racial for a reason.

Contrary to some opinions, I don’t think that the short story makes Gazlowe into a communist. The goblins are not all going kumbaya. At most, they are starting to divert off a self-destructive path, on to a path that provides sustainable long term profits and locks in the loyalty of their biggest customers (i.e. the other Horde member races).

Providing health benefits and decent working conditions is not a sign of burgeoning communism either. It is a smart capitalist taking care of his goblin capital to ensure that he doesn’t deplete it and at the same time undermining the possibility of actual socialism/communism taking root amongst working class goblins.

Ask yourself who masterminded the Sickness Insurance Law of 1883, the Accident Insurance Law of 1884 and the Old Age and Disability Law of 1889 in Germany? Noted “communist” Otto Von Bismarck…

They abuse the Horde again to implement california polititcal activism instead of having their own personal stories of struggle like Alleria and Anduin got them. It is not only ruining the image of the goblin race it also henches in with alliance bias.

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To be fair you made a kind of pointless statement, in a large player base you can find a good subsection of any group that can fit some category. Doesn’t really prove anything.

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It proves that alot of Horde fans still like being evil. That in order for the Horde to be an organization that is less evil it will gasp have to be more like the Alliance.

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We have two factions. And they should show actual differences in their mindset that are not the aesthetics. Really. If you want that then turn all characters into grey blobs with the same names. Alliance players love boring stories with zero spice.

no one should tell him that TÜV is a german invention, founded in hannover. and mannheim …and was partly builded because of the terrible conditions in the industry…but psst! its a secret :wink:

Exactly the point I was trying to make. The goblins are not devolving, they are evolving into greater forms of capitalism.

Ok?

And I can find a good subsection of the Alliance that wants the same. Although that gets bigger with the addition “But still be treated as heroes”

It doesn’t mean anything really.

Well that’s not true at all.

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That is communism no matter how hard you try to sugarcoat it.