New Servers idea (Retro/Premium)

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TLDR:
New server (Server 1) with Mythic + disabled
New server (server 2) with increased Mythic + difficulty and focus for players who love this content and want more out of it then retail wow provides.
Both servers are a premium fee $19.99 to make up for the minor maintenance cost.
Both servers are set at current retail wow patch period.

Hello everyone. I am a long time MMO player, wow player, and because Holly Longdale will understand why I am making this post, a huge Everquest player (from Beta till the current TLP’s).

My favorite MMO was always Everquest until WoW WOLTK came out until Legion. WoW during this period was the peek joy I had in my MMO history and the thing that ruined it for me was Mythic +. I slowly fell out of love with WoW because of Mythic +. I still enjoy the majority of WoW in every other way, but I cringe at Mythic +, which is disappointing for me because I want to love WoW and play…because the raiding is amazing but Mythic + drives me away every time.

I also don’t really have interest in playing classic servers because I have experienced those expansions and don’t really want to do them again. I want to PLAY retail WoW. I am excited about the three expansion Saga and the upcoming housing! But WoW Retail with Mythic + has left me behind.

Holly, the reason why I hope you read this is because you where the reason that TLP’s were brought to Everquest because you understood that modern Everquest had left many of the long-term EQ players behind and they wanted that old feeling, in a new twisty way. You have done things in WoW with the Season of Discovery and Pandamonium event. These events/servers have been hits and brought back many players.

I am asking you to do that again and I am going to list a few server ideas that I really hope you make because I think the demand will be much higher than many people think. For those reading this, if you want one of these servers or have suggestions please add a reply.

I am calling them Retro/Premium servers for a reason because I am willing to pay for it and put my money where my mouth is. I suggest that these servers require a $19.99 baseline sub fee to play to make up for the additional Dev time needed to make them work. But these servers once started won’t be hard to maintain but will be in demand.

Retro Server 1: (this server does not need some big launch event. Launching it sooner than later would make it more successful due to people wanting to get in on the WOW fun now).
Retail WoW with Mythic + disabled. $19.99 Sub fee.
Very simple concept. It launches at the current spot of retail wow. No exceptions. Same timeline, patch period, etc. The ONLY thing different from this server is Mythic 0 is the max dungeons can go, just like all the expansions prior to Legion. Mythic raiding stays the same and Delves stay the same. (Delves become the superior gear option after Mythic 0)

This will allow so many players who loved WoW before Mythic + to have that Retro WoW feeling we have missed and still be competitive in PVP/Mythic Raids without the burden of having to run our weekly 10’s.

Character transfer to this server should be enabled (more money for you). Mythic + gear will not transfer with the character but all other gear stays. (maybe make the item revert back to Mythic 0 level).

Warcraft logs will just have to adjust and make a “tab” for comparisons on this server for rankings. No more raider IO or pressure of this system.

This server does NOT remove anything from the retail player now who loves mythic +. It does not force a system on them to cater to the “carebears” who don’t like Mythic +. This is just a server that many people will love and others will pass on. No harm to anyone and will just bring profit to Blizzard. Please make this happen Holly. You know from experience how new servers with minor ruleset adjustments = big business.

Premium Server 2:
Retail WoW with Mythic+ extreme challenges. $19.99 Sub Fee
I am not educated enough on Mythic + but want to give a server to those that love Mythic + just as much as I want a server with it disabled.
This server would have a special server only leaderboard (weekly/monthly) where the top players get “Tier” rewards. Example top 100 players get unique mount at the end of the month if they fall into this category. Top 200 players get a unique pet and Top 500 get a cosmetic. (Top 100 players get all three).

This server has additional affixes/restrictions that are not on the retail servers that make Mythic + more challenging. I will let the experts decide what and how but the point of this server would be to create a much more challenging experience for Mythic + players who want something more than just “let’s do a +22 instead of a +21”.

The other thing I think would be good on this server is 2x the amount of Mythic + dungeons in the current season so Mythic + players have way more diversity in the weekly grind.

Thats it. That is my pitch. 2 new server types that do not take anything away from players who love classic or retail WoW. No forcing changes on certain types of players who enjoy their current experience. These two new server types just give a home to a playerbase out there who have walked away from WoW or are playing WoW but just wished there was “more” to challenge them.

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Asking for a specific employee for attention is a big no no

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To separate the playerbase for essentially no reason?

Separating them isn’t going to give you more people to do other content with.

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You can just not do M+ if you don’t wanna.

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This cringe goes all the way down.

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Is it against the ToS? This topic is her expertise. Dunno, maybe I am to old school. I have sat in on meetings with Holly before over at Everquest on multiple occasions and chatted with her for hours as one she always wanted input from the top guild leaders. I don’t think she would be upset and she has always been open to ideas.

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Open to good ideas maybe.

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Why not just use her contact info and petition her directly? Why are you blasting this across a social platform?

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WoW has millions of players and creating a game for all players to enjoy, expecially one with 20+ years of history is what game developers should strive for. The majority of players who would play on this server would be returning players and classic players who have gotten their fill of the current classic expansions and would want to come back to retail WoW without feeling like they are in a version of the game that has far left them behind.

People who love Mythic + or even just enjoy it a little, wouldn’t join these servers so there is no threat to current servers.

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My brother in christ. You aren’t going to infuse a new 1 million with this idea, and you aren’t going to immaculately conceive new players for each server.

Think about it for a moment.

Would you even have had this idea save for your jaunt through a supposed return (I say supposed because I don’t think you’re as ‘returning’ as you claim.)

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this would never, ever work. lol

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If you believe that is a vial able option, then you are not the target audience of this post. There are a lot of players who love to tank and heal raids but dislike doing so in Mythic + that are itching for this type of server. Being competitive in raiding and avoiding Mythic + is NOT a legit option either. That fact that BIS gear is 50% from raids and 50% from mythic + is a reason this isn’t viable. That is not also factoring in the additional currency you get from Mythic + to upgrade gear, especially if your guild is only downed the first few bosses of Mythic raids.

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There is no functional difference between ignoring M+ and your proposed server, other than separation of the playerbase by people who want to do only one or the other.

If people were itching for this experience as you say, you’d find people playing this way in group finder.

So why not use group finder?

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Just like nobody wants a “classic” server. How did that turn out? O yeah, it brough back millions of players, started a chain of classic servers, and is the reason a season of discovery, Pandamonium, and most likely a “reboot” of WoW is coming in the future.

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A.) This was a widely requested feature, and one with shown interest via private servers.

B.) It did not bring back millions of players. It brought back some, no doubt, but this was not the massive infusion you’re claiming it was.

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Lol…

I’m truly at a lost for words.

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I don’t think you are playing the same game in the same way as me. I love raiding at a top level.
[Trexun - Tichondrius - Warcraft Logs]

On my recent return to give WoW one more final shot, when Delve gear was “top” for the first week of raiding…this is where performance was. But once Mythic + came out and I “ignored it” as you say, the gear difference became drastic…Mythic raids from a few mobs that we downed wasn’t enjoy to supply all raiders. Guilds don’t give loot to players who “avoid mythic+”, they actually give the loot to players who are putting more time into their character spending hours doing mythic + (which I am fine with and think that is respectable).

But to act like avoiding a core mechanic of the game and to still be competitive in raiding is possible for a healer/tank is laughable. Mythic + gear is BiS, especially trinkets for most classes.

There is countless post in the last couple months of how this season is the least enjoyable of all seasons. Plenty of players would play on server 1.

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i never said no one wanted a classic server. How did you get that?

they already said this will never happen lol

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Well since we are doing our own create-a-server, my last hope at enjoying WoW is single player WoW with AI party members for everything and they’re good enough that I can get my rewards.

Holly will understand.

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Season of Discovery was a reboot, so “never” isn’t real. Also, if any company uses definitive words and sticks to these guidelines just out of principal will go broke because companies, investors, and shareholders don’t care about someone’s “principal”.

If someone said it would never happen and the people who pay the bills wants it to, and they refuse, they will just hire someone who will do it and use the “creative differences” as an excuse, then bring out the content they believe will sell.