NEW Pwave sucks 4$$, Removing AG is a major cop out to adjusting the Talent

Feels like $hit.

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Couldn’t agree more. The spec is dead at this point it plays like crap and the damage is really low. Not even interested in playing something else I will just unsubscribe at this point.

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They never had to touch primordial wave, it was fantastic. They didn’t have to touch Ancestral Guidance, it was fine. They didn’t have to change lightning bolt, it was good.

So confused at these changes man.

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I was trying to run some campaign quest and on a single target I used to be able to Primordial them which would put Flame Shock on them and then have a Lava Surge Lava Burst and the Primordial mechanic would hit the target again with a 2nd less powerful Lava Burst. Now I have to Flame Shock the target then Primordial the target and then Lava Surge Lave Burst which does NOT hit the target a 2nd time.

So I have to do 3 abilities to do what I use to be able to do with 2 abilities and my damage is cut in half. Like seriously WTF.

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New Pwave is dog $h!t!!

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Legit.

:beers: Here’s to the hopes they change Primordial Wave back to how it was.

#ChangePrimordialWaveBack

Undermine(d) ruined it.

Honestly, it was such a gutting change to the spec — It feels like they ripped the fun out through the heart of the class’s spec and threw it in the players face :sob:

… Well, hopefully with the changes to come (as all new patches have) they respond to the mass outcries and make the better decision to changing it back. :dracthyr_nod:

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Clearly they’re going for “change everything for the worse” because we can’t have two shaman specs be awesome at the same time.

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We need Pwave fixed asap and we need blizzard to communicate their plans. This version is TRASH!!

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It feels surreal they haven’t addressed it …

Like a response to the elemental shaman community in regards to Primordial Wave due to outrage this rampant feels like it’d be an obvious action to make — but nothing!??

Yikes. :face_exhaling:

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It needs to go back as soon as possible! The spec is nothing but spam CL until spenders in mythic plus, it’s boring and has made my enjoyment of this spec go from 100 all the way down to 0.

#ChangePrimodialWaveBack

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#ChangePrimordialWaveBack

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I have to agree I was really surprised when They removed the lava burst duplication mechanic and replaced it with nothing.

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For the hundredth time on the hundredth post, someone at blizzard talk to us. We’re all mad and just want to go back to how things were. Easiest change of your life, you don’t even have to think about it, just go back to exactly what it was.

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Blizzard, it is okay for primordial wave to do something a bit different for enhancement and elemental. I know that typically its preferred to keep an ability with the same name doing the same thing across all specs, but the reality is Primordial Wave is not in the class tree, its in our spec trees, and I think sometimes you just have to leave it up to players to read their abilities and notice that they do different things despite having the same name because they are two different specs we are playing. Even if players do get confused by that, ultimately it is up to them to read the abilities their spec has within their spec tree, sometimes you have to leave it up to us to figure things out.

Keep prim wave the way it is for Enhancement as its really fun and works really well with the spec. Revert it for Elemental because nothing really needed to be changed with it, there was no complexity behind Pwave gameplay for Ele, if anything the only difficult part was getting flame shocks out and this Pwave change made that worse/more complex to do since we lost the flame shock application from it. Just revert it for Ele.

Also, worst case scenario, just change the name of it for Ele. Name it Primordial Burst or Primordial Blast for ele so that the names are not the same assuming that is the hang up/reason behind changing it for Ele despite Ele being in a great spot from its rework already.

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