I would like to continue Pantheaeu topic on the GD.
At least from my pov:
The free trial needs improvements to engage new possible players.
I agree that some cosmetics like Glad mounts shouldn’t be provided anymore, however OP asked for recolors, it’s a little bit different but still will cause rage among that small % of players, as mount collector that doesn’t care if Blizzard improve some past %, like when the anniversary event has a chance to drop Invincible’s Reins, there’s a need to incentivize players to do old content, maybe high level players joining low level queues to find some roles easier as mentioned by OP, with some mounts from that expansion added to a box.
we already have this before on Legion with a tank reward that provided the polar bear from The Storm Peaks via an item [Misty Satchel of Exotic Mysteries] and another mounts/items.
As mentioned by Wowhead writter:
If anyone has an input about new player experience, join this thread, Currently CC forums are like 5-6 characters, we really need more players there.
Hmm just my opinion but picking your first character, the race and the class… it doesn’t have to be a informed choice and maybe even better when it’s not. Because when we started it was what sounded cool. What fantasy appeals to you. I think that still matters. And the more somebody becomes familiar with characters and the lore along the way they may want to try something else.
I really really am tired of pathfinder being some silly hurdle for us to jump over to be able to fly in old expansions however and I would support the pathfinder being removed as a required achievement when the expansion becomes older. We should earn some mount for getting pathfinder at first when it’s current and let it become unobtainable after the next expansion releases.
I agree except with the part of it being unobtainable, just let them fly and keep the mount as part of the achievement, if they want to comeback for that mount, then they can complete the same meta achievement. When it’s not a seasonal reward , i would prefer an approach of not removing things. IMO
I really like those videos from Josh Strife Hayes, he does good analisis about quit moments, mmorpg genre in general and borrowed power as parasitic desing.
However, Devs should already know that, right? So, i agree that playerbase doesn’t have to provide a video like telling them to watch something specific. the CC member should take those ideas and provide his/her own input.
I recently did a War and pick exile reach, you’re right, there’s not a challenge or something that you could notice as Tank, it would be better some tank mechanics and if you fail it, maybe a npc heal you back full or something to avoid doing all over again with a warning or an indication of what you need to learn as tank.
Making a constructive post inspired by a Youtube video isn’t spam. It’s spam when someone posts a Youtube video and doesn’t give their own opinion at all.
I’m not really sure people understand how tough it was to get Glad before BFA lol.
The top 0.5% of players on the ladder got it. Cutoffs varies depending on participation and inflation. Nonetheless, 0.5% is a very small number of people. Think of all the hours those people put into grinding their way up the ladder to push Glad.
Think about how psyched people were when they’d log in to see they were able to hit that % point and get the mount. All the hard work finally paid off. You get to take a break before the next SEASON starts and the grind begins again.
Now imagine years later, people actually want to have that same mount just randomly given to them by RNGesus for doing Timewalking content on an alt that they don’t really play often. So just because a mount is old and “not that many people have it”. Those people don’t get to standout from the rest? They don’t get to show off their hard work? It’s a hard pass from me, and probably the overwhelming majority of people who push ANY sort of rating.
Recolor or not, those armored versions of Cata drakes, or what have you, should stay limited to Gladiator ONLY.
I think there is probably a consensus among gladiators that they don’t want their rewards, some of which only a few hundred people were good enough to get, to go to people doing timewalking content. I don’t think you’d find a single gladiator that would be ok with that.
I think the post is more regarding the whole topic around new players and not that part, it’s clear that seasonal rewards shouldn’t be part of rng system, as i mentioned on the post during previous expansions there was an item Misty Satchel of Exotic Mysteries that provided the Green protodrake, polarbear, deathcharger…etc mounts from low % drops that are attached to old dungeons or other RNG boxes.
Besides an incentive, i would like to keep the post focus on ideas for new player engagement, since there’s like 5 CC members on the whole forum, i’m still waiting for those profession focus members to join Worldpvp Thread with fresh ideas and inputs.
Why? Like you already stated! 0.5% is a very small number of people. If you where running a company. Would you worry about 0.5% or 99.5%?
Like you already stated! 0.5% is a very small number of people. So again why think about them?
If you think playing a video game is hard work. You have never done hard work! And you should go bow down and kiss your parents feet. Because they have given you the most entitled and carefree life that 99.5% of us don’t get!
Nobody cares about what you are trying to show off! You are playing a game and not working! NOTHING IN THE GAME IS REAL! You aren’t speaking for the majority of people who push ANY sort of rating. You are .5%! so stop acting like you matter to the bottom line. And stop blocking the damn mail boxes!
Give the new player a choice of where they want to start.
Give the new player a choice of where and how they want to level.
Offer new players a leveling option consisting of an all-expansion quick-time questline that only hits the main story points. (Quest markers could be orange and only seen and available to the new player who opts in for the questline.)
Get rid of scaling and make the base game challenging again.
I just remember, i was leveling some alts and found some elite quest that are imposible due to lack of players on those zones, so i skipped those.
I would like to see a main quest line, as you mentioned because WoW was desigened first like a DnD stories with few connections and the moved to a single campaing, however new players can’t get attached to characters, so if that player want to know the story needs videos from content creators… We already miss part of the story on books too. Any new player now won’t know about Teldrassil impact because that was removed.
Another example :
New players start on BFA, Alliance players are sent to Kultiras prison and you don’t even know Jaina at all.
The time that those people invested into a hobby / passion that they legitimately care about is very real.
And having it essentially wasted because people can now get those mounts for doing basically nothing is honestly straight up disrespectful to the people who grinded, and played at a higher level than 99.5% of the other people on the ladder.
People who want to get Glad mounts without getting Glad, ESPECIALLY those who want old Glad mounts, are wild. Pvpers get the shaft just about every expansion, and now you want to take the most coveted reward, behind R1 titles, and just give them out like golden tickets to random people who do a TW dungeon?
Ahh! Poor babies! Grow up and snap back to reality! It’s a common video game practice. As a matter of fact. It’s a common practice in business. The time that those people invested. The passion that they legitimately care about. Well, sorry to tell you. You can’t get a dime for Glad mounts at the pawn shop. And nobody cares how hard you grinded. Nobody cares how much time you invested. Nobody cares how much passion you have. Stop crying about how other people get digital stuff!