Also consider the CPU - a 3700x at full render load pulls under 170w total system load.
And even a 5600xt with a 9900k in a gaming load doesn’t pull more than 290w.
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So about that… I’ve done some exploring and NVidia power limits are like Intel and AMD TDPs… I’d take them with a massive grain of salt. I say this because I’ve seen both of my cards pull over power limit using nvidia-smi even when I deliberately down leveled one card after it triggered an OCP fault. Furthermore rule of thumb is to target 50% as average load, so for the system you’ve both described I’d say 600-650W is more ideal. Would 550W work… potentially if they get a founders edition card and not an OC card (which the board partner cards can be cheaper and have higher stock power limits up to 190W apparently for the 2060).
Am I being conservative: Yes, but I do have experience here with the janky things board partners do and having them trigger OCP faults that shouldn’t be able to happen. (TBF MSI card doing stupid things… I should have known better)
A SSD is now apparently baseline for Shadowlands from what I have seen. If true, I have no idea what the hell Blizzard is thinking. The vast majority of people who play WoW are using a cheap laptop with a HDD to play and not some suped up gaming PC with a SSD installed and even if they do have a SSD, it is used mostly for boot rather than gaming.
This is why I measure off a kilowatt meter at the outlet
Clamp at the PCI cable is closer, and nvidia-smi also does a good job too. But that also works.
You missed the further discussion where i said it all depends on if your motherboard supports it.
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SSDs are much much more accessible than they ever were.
I think asset loading in a seamless world like WoW is something they consider when they work the graphics engine.
If they have to account for slow asset loading, perhaps that will hamstring them in development?
At some point everyone needs to make the shift to SSDs if they haven’t already. It’s been a decade since they’ve become relatively mainstream.
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Not just that but the cost of SSDs is currently falling so they are more accessible than they were previously. Especially M.2 NVMe which is the best option with Ryzen.
My 3900X + 1080 Ti pulls 440W from the wall when gaming.
Especially with the availability of inexpensive fast QLC drives. For 99% of users, a fast NVME QLC drive with SLC/DRAM cache is an amazing impelmentation.
I’m using a 1TB Intel 660p, and since I’m using it only for boot and games (not as a scratch drive, which is the wrong application), I get all the benefits of something like a Samsung EVO 970 with almost none of the increased cost.
I did some math and endurance expectation for my usage is something like 12-13 years. In other words way beyond the useful lifespan of the product.
Yes, eventually people need to make the jump to SSD’s and they will, but 1TB and above SSD’s can still be expensive depending on where you live and shelling out for a SSD just for WoW is not worth it.
Perspective.
People shell out thousands on MTX in most games. Requiring $30 worth of SSD space I think isn’t asking much.
Where the hell are you getting $30 SSD’s from? I have a 1TB one and it cost me near $200 AUD and that was on sale.
Maybe a cheap Chinese knockoff
Okay well, you’re on the USA forums, so I can’t speak for AUD prices. My prices are in USD in the USA.
A name brand 240gb ssd is $35
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-BX500-240GB-2-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07G3YNLJB
A name brand 1TB SSD is $90
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-BX500-NAND-2-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07YD579WM
In 1999, I paid $149 for a 9.1GB 7200RPM Western Digital Hard Drive. That was the norm at that time.
For reference, $149 1999 dollars is about equal to the spending power of ~$237 2020 dollarrs.
Yes, storage is much cheaper than it ever has been, even for high speed SSD storage.
Yes, well, over here in Aus, a 1TB SSD will set you back at least $200 and above easily unless you get it on sale or know people. So it is not a cheap investment per say.
Cheap SSDs are meh. The 200 Au are prob Pcie 4.
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The dollar amount doesn’t mean anything because we’re talking different currencies. You’re taking my comment out of context and applying it to your own.
Even so, $200 AUD ($147USD) isn’t too bad for a 1tb SSD.
I’m sorry prices are higher there. At least your COVID is under better control. So there’s that.
For games, not a lot of difference between a PCIE4 and a cheap SATA SSD.
Also see
Crucial P1, Sabrent Rocket, Intel 660p…all 1tb QLC NVME drives with DRAM/SLC cache around $100.
I would avoid DRAMless SSDs though. Stutters when load is elevated. You can find a list of SSDs with some details here.
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