New mount - Squeakers... Really?

So? It’s a mount. They cleaned out the store and retired some to make room for new ones. We’ve had a CNY mount for the past three years. People were already expecting one and excited for one.

Why is it such a big deal to throw a cosmetic into a store? There’s a handful of mounts and.pets in there. This isn’t a hundred page long store like Old Republic’s or something. :roll_eyes:

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One requires real money (recurring subscription) and the other (game time) does not.

You can conclude on your own whether/why Blizzard would want to incentive real money transactions from players over game token purchases.

It shouldn’t be difficult to surmise why they switched to the new requirement of a subscription for the Sylvarian Dreamer mount. Players were upset about it: Sylverian Dreamer Rant

That’s just the first thread that popped up, but you can find several Blue posts explaining the change. They didn’t say, “oh, we did it to increase our subscriptions” but that is the only difference between how the Dreadwake mount was acquired compared to the Sylverian Dreamer.

And, yes, players colloquially refer to their game time as “being subbed” to the game but I provided two distinct links to the two different game time forms so you can see Blizzard distinguishes between the two and for what should be obvious reasons token purchases are reported differently in their financials from real money purchases.

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i want a monkey mount

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No, it just required you to be able to play the game, which means you must have a subscription, and the minimum amount of time you needed to pay for was for 180 days which = 6 months so…

I mean we can keep at this all day, or you can go bother someone else with your drivel.

As for the ‘insult’? Yeah that’s not an insult. I call all dwarves ‘stunties’. Just like I call all gnomes ‘footballs’. It’s not my fault you’re short.

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you have the option to buy it out right… no 6 months package

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I was absolutely, 102%, completely outraged to my core that Blizzard released a new store mount / 6 month package mount.

Until I released that I am a bi-yearly subscriber so I just got a mount for literally no extra cost.

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For those with a re-occurring 6 month sub and do not yet have it, i spoke to a gm who said you will have it no later than 28th of Jan, which is fine but thanks for the no fine print on that? Especially since it’s offering me the choice of buying it outright despite the fact I should get it for free… A little fine print would have been nice. Or did I miss something?
(Edit solved below whoops)

To be frank, You and Carhagen, have done a much better job of explaining it the difference.

It was written on the blue post announcing the mount…

Where does it say it in the launcher or when you go to buy it? that’s where it should be… once again did i literally just miss it? Not everybody reads the forums.

Players on an existing 6-month recurring subscription with a future renewal date will receive the Squeakers, the Trickster mount at no additional charge, no later than January 28, 2020.

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I think it’s because your bnet balance is money they already have in their safekeeping. They want you to sub because that’s fresh money coming in on top of it.

Plus there’s always the occasional person who forgets to cancel their recurring sub.

Doh! lol thanks

You’re welcome.

There is a difference. Someone could get a bunch of tokens and enter those, adding up to the six months. Which means they could use in game gold to get a mount.

These ones require an actual subscription, which is paid for differently, can’t use Bnet Balance and can’t use tokens or time cards. It’s a straight up payment using a credit card.

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The problem is Carhagen either doesn’t understand the concern or is being disingenuous. Look at what he’s claiming:

The Dreadwake mount only required 6 months of game time, which could have been purchased via tokens. It did not require a recurring subscription and it did not require players to pay Blizzard real money.

The Sylverian Dreamer and this Squeeker mount do require a recurring subscription, which does require a 6 month real money transactions from players.

Players did not buy “6 month subs” for the Dreadwake mount, which is why Blizzard quickly changed the requirements for the Sylvarien Dreamer.

Also, since the Dreadwake mount didn’t require a 6 month subscription to receive it, using it as example in no way demonstrates this latest mount offer isn’t intended to get players to “subscribe” to the game. In fact, it eviscerates his own argument since it explicitly did not require a subscription from players. That’s likely why he’s resorting to personal insults when he responds to me now–his argument was thoroughly debunked. He is wrong and rather than admit his mistake he wants to continue to insult me.

Again, you are arguing semantics, just like the stunty was.

Regardless of how you purchased the game time necessary to earn the mount, you still needed to have a subscription, unless you’re playing a trial account, you cannot play the game without one. I am not going to get into another lengthy technicality debate because short-stack wanted to feel bigger than he actually is.

Game time (purchasable here https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/world-of-warcraft-game-time)

and Subscription time (purchasable here https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/world-of-warcraft-subscription?p=69470)

are substantively different. One is purchasable with bnet or tokens and the other requires real money. This is not a semantic difference, regardless of how much you fling insults around.

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It’s not semantics. If you tried to use game tokens right now to get six months of game time, you won’t get the mount.

I don’t have a subscription. I pay month by month. Subscription is scheduled, recurring payment.

This isn’t semantics, there’s is a difference between a monthly payment on a recurring schedule that automatically auto pays… and month to month using in game gold or a time card to buy one month of time.

One counts for the six month mount. The other does not.

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lol you 100% did not need a subscription for the Dreadwake promotion. I haven’t had a sub since they introduced bnet balance from tokens.

You were wrong. Bow out.

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