NEW! Mage patch notes

Yeah, this is going to be a really quick experiment for me if something doesn’t change soon.

After being melee for most all of my raiding for 10+ years now, I finally decided to take my primary alt (Frost mage) and raid with it, based on our group needing the intel buff and some of the pre-expansion data we had available.

We had the full 30 in the raid the other night, I want to say 23 DPS, and I was usually coming in 12th - 18th out of those 23 for most of the night. Maybe two pulls I broke into the top 10 but most of the time I was around 15-18. I’m trailing badly our rogues and our UH DH. Adjusting for item level – and this is a guess – I’m bottom third in the group.

So I figure it’s probably all me, since this was not a primary raid toon for me before, until I simmed myself. Turns out I’m doing a greater percentage of theoretical DPS on this guy than I was on my old melee main. I tend to play with a different build than the meta (i.e., I run Comet Storm and Ray of Frost when I can) but the sims were only showing around a 75-100 DPS increase if I swapped those out for the “right” talents, meaning not enough to matter and not enough to make me want to play a different way than I’d like.

The problem is, I’m only doing 50-60 percent of our top DPS in the raid (UHDH, Sub rogue, MM hunter) and for a pure DPS (i.e., non-hybrid) class, that’s not going to cut it. Also very disappointing that Blizzard is tuning up the spec above us and the two below us, but not us.

Please Blizzard, I don’t want to have to main fire again.
I want it to be viable, but please make the other specs viable too.
I hate the “everything depends on your combustion” playstyle.

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You must raid with bads

Everytime I run with MM Hunters, Unholy Dk’s or Boomkins at the same ilvl, they constantly do 20-30% more damage.

There is a huge difference between the Top classes and even the mid classes, so their balancing for this early Xpac is the worst I have seen.

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At least! And it can be even worse on heavy movement fights.

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Dude, you’re posting as a DK on the Mage Forums telling other Mages that they are fine. You are pretty much the last person we would listen to.

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Just quit your mage bro.

inb4 this mentally handicapped retard is the last existing mage on the server because everyone stops playing mage and says mages are fine lol. Imagine someone being as brain dead as you, must be hard to pursue life goals. But dont worry playing with a group of retards validates your feedback for the class as a whole you definitely know balancing

Just because someone’s on the bottom of the list, it doesn’t mean that they’re bad. Someone always has to be on the bottom.

Not to mention all the “what if’s” of each scenario. What if someone got a few more crits than normal? What if someone got less crits? What if someone got unlucky with having to move more or less often which caused them to pause their rotation?

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The top to bottom difference is 40% damage.

That’s far too much

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That comment right there completely ignores what the actual issue is. As people have said multiple times on here, it’s not the ranking that matters but the difference between the ranks that’s unacceptable.

Thousands of logs showing the disparities but you’re going with the outliers?

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Wow dude you need help.

We’re all still waiting on your logs.

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Good to know you are hung up on this and are eagerly awaiting them lmao. I sent them in the mail via ups ground. Should receive in about 5-7 business days.

Do you honestly think we’re all really expecting your grey parsing logs to show up anytime soon on these forums.

You hide behind an alt we already know you’re a troll.

I imagine most people like myself dismiss anything you say as it has no credibility or no actual evidence behind it

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Lol Yes I do because you keep harassing me for them. If you aren’t they why keep asking. It’s really weird you’re so obsessed with me dude.

To be honest it’s just cuz I find fake people funny and interesting.

The idea of hiding behind your Alt while spouting data like it’s legit and just makes me laugh.

I find it funny how some people can be really pathetic online.

we all really understand that if you had anything of merit you wouldn’t be hiding behind an alt you’re only doing so to hide your actual logs which says a lot about you mostly that you probably can’t perform well at all.

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Bro stop obsessing over me. It’s creepy.

I don’t know man you keep replying to me I’m thinking you like the attention.

I mean this is my thread leave.

No one cares what you have to say anyway.

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Bro bro. If it helps I can send you an autographed picture of my logs. You can frame it. Just please stop with the obsessing after that.