New lore reveal in books. Elune, Azeroth, Sylvanas

I sincerely hope/want to believe that if they even get a step towards redemption it will be about making amends and possible actually getting the true death she wanted after Wrath in some fashion. At this point BfA salted the earth when it comes to her returning and I think even bringing Sylvanas back as her pre-scourge self would piss at least one group of people off; but Revendreth exists, and I’m vaguely hopeful the devs get that (vaguely, only, because the devs also decided to pull a last minute retcon to make people tolerate Bolvar as the neutral guide for the expansion after his horrible, cruel, and ironically useless actions in the DK Campaign)

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So, Vulpera children are sociopathic when it comes to their interactions with other Vulpera children. Goblin’s culture being highly influenced by their 3000 years as a Slave race is not considered when judging their souls? Either that, or their good afterlife is just uncomfortably named after the Venthyr covenant feature (and a Goblin child being in Revendreth was just an exception)? And An’she is the brother of Elune and the WQ (likely within the Light Cosmology, if Elune is Life and WQ is Death). I also hope to god that your speculation is dead wrong.

EDIT: The Elune family is a neat concept, but generally … wow. More villain batting of Horde races, making them by-default evil. And more setting up the stage for an “out” for Sylvanas. How “surprising”.

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This one, to me, sounds like someone read something about how rough fox kits play and decided to apply it directly to vulpera

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Wait what

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Or they went the Hyena route where they often kill siblings when they’re young. But given that Vulpera are a sapient race, attaching that sort of “nature quirk” to them is essentially just again putting strong innate negative connotations to Horde races. Just like how the majority of Gobs are apparently sent to Revendreth, even Children (because there is one there in 9.1). Seems Blizzard REALLY is selling the idea that races with Cultural history as Slave-Races are EVIL monsters by default.

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Oh yeah I’m not saying it’s remotely good, just, that weirdness sounds like one of these “I saw a nature documentary once” things.

Also given the infinite afterlives thing I’d hope the Eternal Party isn’t revendreth for real or I’d be disappointed.

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Is anyone surprised by the goblin bit? They’re not evil but flawed. Also what goblin child?

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During Children’s Week, Venthyr-aligned characters who do the Ember Court learn a Goblin child has been given to Theotar so he can oversee the kid’s atonement for whatever the kid did in life.

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Yes, nothing quite like condemning an entire race for many of their cultural trends being highly reflective and explained from their 3000 years as a Slave race. Truly, evil monsters, how dare they free themselves! And “Bubbins” Theotars ward was sporting a LOVELY lil Goblin CHILD model during Childrens Week. h’ttps://www.wowhead.com/news/childrens-week-ember-court-feature-meet-bubbins-theotars-ward-322200

At this point we’re not even pretending that Blizz isn’t operating off GoodRace/BadRace mentalities. And my goodness there are a lot of races with histories of being slaves on the default evil side of things. Also, a shocking amount of Non-European inspired ones too! :roll_eyes:

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I wonder if you can get Ardenweald souls on loan and have them function as ghostly therapy animals. :thinking:

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*Tin foil hat I realized yesterday * Curious that the Odal Rune is added all over Oribos, and is the most common rune used for all the Vrykul, Odyn/Helya, Titans, etc stuff! :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

Yes, universally binding an entire race to WoW-Purgatory, while every other race have liberty in the afterlife (even though if WQ is Elune’s sister, it stands to reason Ardenweald is the “promised Elune afterlife”, etc) is problematic.

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How much NE and Elune lore can I expect from this book? I’m on a fantasy book marathon and I’m just wondering if I should add it to my list.

Send an ordinary goblin somewhere other than Revendreth? What for? They will sell everything. In Ardenveld, their path is closed, in Maldraxus they will oust brokers and organize their own doping market, for Bastion they lack loyalty to ideology. Only in Revendreth, to destroy the culture of greed.
Unless fanatically dedicated engineers can be sent to Cortia (is that the name of the new Covenant?), But you never know … suddenly all such engineers are guided by traditional goblin principles?

And why should three thousand years of slavery to the race free each particular goblin from responsibility for excessive greed?

Why are we disscussing this like everything in the book is canon? Aside from the Chromie is trans thing most of what is in the book seem like tall tales(Uther having a dragon pet would be the talk of the town).

You do realize Blizzard seems to have sent the Scarlets to Revendreth as well? Literal racists getting a taste of their own medicine.

Which also begs the question of does the fact the Scarlets were being corrupted by a demon not earn them some leeway?

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Because it explains their cultural tendencies towards being materialistic, short-sighted, and destructively proactive. And sorry, not every race could have several thousand years to settle on their Trust-Fund parent’s ideologies; and all it cost to get them there was 80 percent of Azeroth’s landmass. Truly, comparing NEs to Goblins could not be a more unfair thing to do.

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Into the abyss of the night elves. Why are you freed from “sins” if “sins” are an integral part of your culture?

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В бездну ночных эльфов. Почему вы освобождаетесь от “грехов”, если " грехи" - неотъемлимая часть вашей культуры?

Among sort of mythical ones, here is a story about the Embrace, thus includes the White Lady, and expanding on the tauren myth of the Earthmother which should somewhere have a metaphor for Elune, be it Mu’sha or Earth Mother.

2nd is IMO interesting in combination with the Prophecy of C’Thun (which does include some night elf history).


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Because the Chromie thing being canon means any of this book is Schrodinger’s Canon, and both possibilities should be taken into consideration

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Personally I am going with a everything here is a tall tale until we actually get confirmation.

Even the goblin “afterlife” feels like what the goblins think the afterlife will be as oppose to what it actually is(add that to the fact there is that inventor aftelife which I think many goblins would rather prefer).

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So is this not canon and just in game myths and legends?