New lore reveal in books. Elune, Azeroth, Sylvanas

When people do not have fun, they start asking questions. When the devs made the choice to ignore the concern, situation started to escalate. As time goes on, it very well might go past the point of compromise and discussion to an outright rejection of the people who made such story turns. And there would be no1 to blame outside of the company called “activision-blizzard”.

You are free to financially support what they do. Does not mean that others are obligated to never criticize the story, or to exclude the story from the list of the problems of the game.

False. The devs themselves talk about morality (check the Evolution of Thrall panel) and lessions to learn. Nobody forced them to bring in irl morality and concepts into the previously fictional narrative.

Sure. Except they made a conscious choice to use exactly that way to evaluate and validate the characters and the story turns they wanted to. So, when the community does what the devs request, no point in complaining about community following what the devs state.

If you try to use “the intention of the devs” as a way to justify your take on the story, it would be nice if you yourself find out the language used by the devs themselves when they talk about the story they created, and their reasoning for why those choices were made.

It should be then advertised as such and provide equal oppotrunities to all parties to participate.

It’s 1 chapter out of the “9.1 story”.

They are chosing a path of “genocide is cool for the promotional materials, but will be waved away, because the horde is new, improved and corrected, thus the core of the problems are resolved automatically”.

[not to mention what that means to the value and the concept of the original W3-Classic-TBC horde]

Not to mention the false advertisement aspect of the story sold as “seeking justice” and the “aftermath of the event”.

It tells the story that if you’re a dev favourite then anything can be forgiven, regardless of what is done. And genocide is fine if for the greater_good™.

Well, what do you [not you personally, but as a figure of speach about the dev team] expect if you take money for 1 story, and then silently replace the things people are emotionally involved in, but by whatever the devs themselves prefer to do for the money they took.

different people are different. With different motivations, etc. Does not make “wrong” the whole rejection of the story revisionism and deconstruction of what people loved for the sake of validation of the devs’ biases and preferences.

Depends on the execution. Depends on the detail. Depends on the context. Depends on many implementation details.

Well, of course it was. It was 180 on the promo materials. Why would it be considered good? Some liked it though, despite inconsistencies, etc.

Yeah, and that is the funny thing that you support that the narrative is a problem, while ignoring the common problems that plague it, regardless if that is what was done to the elf story, or to the W3 horde identity.

Do you have a race / faction which is explicitly sold as the Empire equivalent? Do you think that with the current dev take on morality, that “Empire” side would have any validity or necessity shown in the story?

Because it’s not the ruleset of the universe. There won’t be a follow up of demolishing the “new” and “improved” horde and then saying “nah, it’s all fine - for the greater_good™”.

It was just an event for shock value that dragged a few participants on the border of “out of character”, and instead of a follow-up to the event, it brushes it off under the hood of conveniently appearing greater_good™.

Clear message, clear foundation, clear execution of the explicitly mentioned concepts - that is all that lies under those discussions as far as I can tell.

It matters what they show, not what they imagine which when talking to each other during the planning stage of the development.


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