Not true at all. I’ve had some PL runs where I got something on every boss, and some where I got none on any boss. And in NvG, I’ve also won multiple items with Need, and multiple items with Greed. Just because you don’t get stuff, doesn’t mean the game is out to get you or the system is broken. It just means you didn’t pray enough to RNGsus.
you are so right
Because it’s not in their best interest to put a time limit on your game time? If the currency lets you buy 2 pieces a week, you’re done gearing up in 2 months with BiS.
I havent read every single reply to this so if its been covered then okay. But personally if you are rolling need against ppl who need the gear for upgrades because you are after transmog, you are the one abusing the system to me. Need before greed is about getting useful gear. Transmog should be in the greed category but I guess the system doesnt sort that. Taking ppl’s upgrades for your closet to me is more unfair.
Many people, wont say all or most, but people, including me, like this change because its at least nice to feel like you could push the button and have a chance rather than the loot gods just throwing things at ppl. If you lose, you lose, but its better than having an item go to John Super Geared hes never going to use and it being totally useless.
What you thought the community had sensibilities or restraint? Sorry to hear.
That was requested… shrug. Now you can run the same dungeons/raids as much as you want and have a greater CHANCE of getting it, at the expense of your life of course.
Its good for in game economy/business at least.
It’ll pale in comparison to the amount of times you’ll be clearing that content.
Sounds fun, make sure to record/screen share next time it happens.
i got the shoulders from sanctum finally after six months and guess what someone got mad that they didnt get the upgrade. this will happen more and more as raiders go to lower difficulties to farm transmog
Group Loot only exists to please know it all GMs or their lackies. It only actually benefits the RWF. It acts as a defacto master loot system.
The thought process for most mythic guilds is “Items X, Y, and Z dropped, and they will help us if players A, B, and C receive them” so the items get assigned to those players. The problem comes in determining the criteria for such an upgrade. Inevitably, the players the officers/GM like the most end up getting the majority of the gear, and everyone else is given only enough to prevent them from leaving.
With personal loot everyone had an equal chance at gear, and the excess could be traded. It was fair. Group Loot is not fair, can never be fair, and is a terrible system.
We will see even more loot funneling / split runs among the RWF guilds now.
The system should be reverted to personal loot with restrictions, or it should be a flat currency system where every raid member receives the same quantity per boss, with loot being purchasable from a vendor.
If you choose to join and/or stay in a group with those practices then that is on you. I have been playing since 05 and have never had a group abuse any variation of the loot systems. Either system the same bumber of drops drop. Its just a difference if the roll is behind the curtain or not. The same forced trading happened where it could regardless.
I played in 04 and people will always abuse loot rules. You must limit you who interact with?
Very first EPIC (purple item) that dropped on the server; was from Azureagos (sp?) and the tank ninja’d the two handed sword.
VERY FIRST boss to die in Molten Core, Mage won both items and left the raid.
LOL. People will abuse this all day long.
Before you had a chance to get an item or 2. Now you have the chance to get as much as you are lucky enough to get. How hard is that to understand?
People will get 5 to 12 loots per week from raids, M+ ect, while there will be people at the other end of the spectrum with only 1 or 2.
This difference is going to be increased now, along with countless other valid points as to why this new loot system sucks.
I agree this system is so much worse compared to what we just had such was fine the way it was.
LFR should be deleted from the game.
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You can’t roll need if your class can’t use the item as the dice are greyed out. But I, on both this toon and my lock, rolled on a staff that was a substantial upgrade only to lose to someone where it would be a downgrade.
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Yea I havent won anything since group loot was added back…
Just my 2 cents. I agree New loot system is terrible