it sounded liked something Ion would do, laugh,lol.
I gotta hire some of the pserver developers to make me some money. The koolaid they sell must be like crack. You got kids drinking it up everwhere, thinking itâs a fine wine.
The evidence has been there from day one. Private servers have never had all the numbers. Never.
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And when they asked if they could see the actual numbers, they got laughed at again.
I played on a private server for years. But man, that saying - a few bad applies spoil the bunch. The bad apples over there are seriously rotten.
Thatâs one of the reasons why Iâm rolling on PvE server. Iâd rather deal with newbies with the right mindset and wipe 5 times then some toxic impatient private server kid.
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And the numbers they have had have been proven to be incorrect and had to be changed how many times?
Like how they used wrong xp rates for little less than 10 years?
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I hope so. I hope so. But Iâm preparing for the worst.
Iâm going to wait 2 months to decide if, when, and where I play.
What youâre doing is using a couple of examples to say private servers as a whole are inaccurate.
I understand. I know the Onyxia deep breath was scripted differently. I read the interview on the german site. I know boss armor values were never known.
Those are all very nice examples, but everyone talking on the forums about this and that being inaccurate are not providing any example to back up their claim.
Before the AMA on Saturday and before this interview, they did the same thing.
Iâm not on anyoneâs side; retailers or private server players, I just find it amazing people will make a blanket claim about something without good evidence.
Aaaand when they messed up xp rates⌠aaaaand when they messed up ret paladins to do too much damage⌠aaaaand when they messed up dps warriors threat.
So by saying that youâre a fool for making claims without evidence, that means Iâm drinking the koolaid? (it was flavor aid by the way)
I can call people fools without having to choose sides. Iâll do it again: Anyone making a claim against private servers without any actual specific evidence and references, is a fool.
Private servers are full of guesses. Refute that.
Thatâs a broad claim, and itâs not incorrect. But lets go up to Cipherr
I donât disagree with Cipherr here, but I also donât agree. Iâm stuck here in a state of not being anymore informed than when he started talking.
Without any specific references to loot that is incorrect, along with evidence to support the claim, his statement comes off as nothing more than âguessesâ that you accuse private servers of making.
I want you to prove that private servers are wrong. I want to know what the real truth is, but until you provide any evidence of it, why should I believe you? and how can anything you say about it hold any weight?
Dude. I donât know how many different ways I can say that Blizzard are the only ones that hold all the values. They are the gate keepers for all the data. No one else has access to it. Not me. Not joe private server. Not anyone. There is no need to âproveâ anything.
It doesnât get much simpler than that.
Edit: Not just values, but the formulas behind those values.
Then I find it amazing that people will use a reference to the unknown as some broad spectrum standard to support their arguments.
Like I said earlier. Itâs foolish.
Dude if you have been paying attention to private servers even remotely you would have known all the times they have been incorrect and all the times the DEVS themselves that they are guessing. I wouldnât put it on anyone to go through all the forum posts, interviews, and videos about this stuff spread out over years just so it can be all put together for someone who clearly has no knowledge of the history of private servers.
Thatâs all very nice. All the times they were wrong does not mean they were wrong all the time.
The fact that we canât prove to what degree they were wrong, means our arguments are worthless if weâre using âinaccuraciesâ as the backbone of our debate.
I just have no idea why people even try to make the argument since, as Xanthak said, weâre not privvy to that information.
For example:
Oh yeah? What if theyâre not shocked? What if it feels the same? Can you prove that the game is going to be so different that theyâre literally shocked out of their brains about it? If youâre going to claim that people are going to be so emotionally affected by differences that you canât even prove or reference, then perhaps what youâre saying is, oh, I donât know, guess work?
Youâre arguing against guesswork by using guesswork. Itâs illogical.
servers proven to be wrong on countless accounts
servers said themselves they have been guessing on countless values
still countless amounts of values that are unknown to anyone besides blizz
You- how do we know theyâre wrong?
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Youâre dense. Truly dense. Iâve not claimed a single time that they were correct, but youâre hinging your argument on that. Youâre trying to have a debate with me on a topic we donât even disagree on.
You have no concept of specificity or varying degrees, so really there is nothing to debate with you about.
Did I say you said they were correct in my last post?
Who is the dense one in this conversation again?
Okay, youâre rambling at this point. Itâs like arguing with a kid. At the very least Iâve maintained respect for Xanthakâs intelligence without struggle.
Iâm just pointing out discrepancies in your argument. Youâre the one turning to insults when you canât handle it, my friend. If you canât handle that I would be holding off calling others âkidâ
Name calling isnât going to get anyone anywhere.
You want proof? What about that AMA reddit thread where that Nostalrius person did a Q and A?
When Blizzard laughed at them when talking about raid accuracy?
Is that good enough for you?
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