None.
They data showed that a lot of players were stopping at +10 rather than continuing to push. Blizzard wants players to keep pushing, thus a new reward.
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They can want it all they want. I’ll take the (superior) KSM skin of this mount and get portals then nope the heck out and just farm 10s for crests and vaults.
I’m going to suffer enough collectors wanting carries to KSM. I don’t need to continue doing that in 11s and 12s.
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This is kind of my vibe. I worked my butt off for 10’s in both patience and skill level. Pretty sure my parses attest to that.
But 2 more levels of ilvl grind just for a recolor and a new achiev? What the heck Blizz? If you wanted +12 to be the new “Good job you’re not butt at this” or “Good job you got carried” then why not just do that from the get go?
I’m just miffed they can’t figure this crap out. Put portals where 6/6 mythic is required to clear. Set the standard there and don’t look back. That’s the whole point right? You didn’t out gear it, you genuinely out played it.
But naw we get this. It’s a good thing overall but man is the reason some degree of “what?”
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We can see them repeating the same strategies to get people to play more over and over again over the years. That may mean that they believe so hard that no amount of data would convince them it won’t result in a complete conversion of the playerbase into players who want this so much they’ll do anything for it. Remember when they introduced the 0.1% title as “something everyone should work for”?
It has been said that repeating the same behavior and expecting different results is a sign of insanity. Self-serving delusion is more like it.
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard it described that way before
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What are you playing uno here?
I’m not mad.
Plays reverse card
You are mad!!!
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So you don’t want to run 12s with me and Malgorok? 
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Let’s not rule everything out completely here ok?
I feel like I’m having offers to game thrown at me lately that I should not be turning down but I’m really not that great. Grizzle could tell you this. lol
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I think half the fun would just be grouping with people you see in the forums. Regardless of how good someone is.
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It has been to be honest. Grouping with Griz was some good times.
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Two of the people I currently run with I met in the Story Forums during Cata/MoP, they even helped me form the guild we’re all currently still in.
Sometimes, grouping with people on the forums works out very nicely.
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I remember doing that before, back in MoP there was a rag-tag team on forum users going for flex more siege
It uhh… didn’t go great cuz it was like 5 people doing mechanics and 15 others being there
We struggled really hard on sha of pride since people couldn’t handle pushing taunt occasionally
Upside I got proper Garrosh loyalist RP since I murdered ALOT of people from the MCs
This is probably the start of the end of the game
I might need some ben and jerrys for this
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you can get well above 2850 in any tank spec. a friend of mine is >3300 currently as brewmaster.
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Fake news. Haven’t you read the forums? Only meta specs can succeed in anything.
(This is sarcasm in case it wasn’t clear)
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sorry i’ll go tell him 
Alright?ㅤㅤ
i fully agree tank balance would be great. just that it’s not important for this particular thing. no offense intended 
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According to the forums brewmasters don’t exist.
I’ve had zero bad experiences with anyone from the forums that I grouped with so far. Even those I regularly spar with on here are very good people to game with and we should honestly expect that. Petty disagreements do not make a bad gaming partner when the metal meets the meat.
Most of us could share a beer and a meal while having a great time just as easily as we can share a few hours of M+ together. If it doesn’t mesh it doesn’t mesh but I’ve yet to play with anyone from these forums that isn’t courteous and fun to spend time with.
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im kinda nervous about pugging this. as i cannot dedicated myself to schedule times. i can only play on MY time, when i have time, which leaves me no choice to pug.
that being said. i can foresee myself leaving hundreds of groups at the 1st sign of failure due to the fact that the run will not be timed and people dont have 30+ mins to waste to finish a run that will give no score.
my question is how will bans be handled this time around when people are leaving failed runs so their precious game time is not wasted?