Boohoo! It’s not all about you.
It shows your experience. It isn’t supposed to show what you think you can do. Go do it first, work your way up, build up your record, and you’ll start to get into more groups. That is how it is done for everyone.
I farmed a purple essence from Mythic+ Which required getting Mythic+10’s a few times to get it efficiently.
I’m not a major Mythic+ player. But I didn’t use Raider IO once, and had a grand total of one bad run?
I don’t see the point in requiring raider IO for people doing low keys. The only place I see them being important is for those wanting to heavily push higher keys.
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Also youre a fool.
There are easily hundreds of DPS players with more experience and ilvl queing up for these keystones. You make think youre special but youre not. Groups are not taking a weaker player to accommodate their feelings.
You can push your own key up as well. You shouldn’t expect to get into others groups when your just another dime a dozen dps.
I especially love that OP thinks their heroic raiding experience somehow lends them “experience” in a conversation about mythic+.
The percentage of the playerbase who achieved AOTC Queen Azshara is 22.5%. That includes me, I did a midnight one-shot run the weekend before the raid closed. Pretty raid, thought it had some interesting mechanics.
The percentage of players who achieved Keystone Master for season three (All ten dungeons timed at a +15 level)? 4.5% And I did KSM twice last season to get my legendary essence appearances.
OP doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
A jack of all trades is a master of none, but often better than a master of one.
Experience in all dungeons at a higher level is generally preferable to someone who only runs two dungeons, though id still consider someone for their one dungeon of choice.
Also, if you link your characters on raider io you’ll see “400 score. Mains score 1200” or something similar.
This whole thread just reeks of jealousy though. It’s like reading some incels rant about chads and Stacey’s.
People complaining about IO need to grow up. If you don’t like how pugs are choosing to pick their peeps, then get a guild or friends and group up.
People are like “IO doesn’t even say what I can do, why can’t they just look at ilvl like they used to”, lol. I’d much rather see someones experience than their item level. Id rather a lower geared player that has seen the mechanics than one who hasn’t.
but you don’t have to. If you do a 10 every week then you have a key. What’s stopping you from running your own key?
The problem here is you’re pitching a fit because random strangers don’t want to play with you. That’s something you’re just going to have to get over.
I know a lot of raiders who just do a 10 a week. The difference in their play in a m+ vs someone else who runs lot of m+ is huge. I’ll take the person with more experience.
Yesterday, I started a KR9 and invited people over season 3 1K score. The group fell apart after tomb boss. The mobs along the way to the multiboss area hit hard. No one cc’ed nor the tank tried to kite
your a dps there are hundreds of us signing up for spots, this week it is not io holding you back.
Plus this week you only need a 6 for loot get your key to 6 and then feel bad for all those dps you decline…
earlier, i created a group for a 6 key i had on my alt, do you have any idea of how many persons are currently queuing 4-6 lvl keys this week
I agree, I dont use it or go by it when I make a group. I just look for the gear level to be appropriate.
For the alt thing, that’s good to know that functionality exists. I don’t play M+ on alts, so that part was to the best of my knowledge from what I had heard.
For the rest, my point was that I could do 2-3 dungeons at, say, 12, but someone who does all the dungeons at 9 will have a higher score than me. If you look purely at the number to judge the player, that would indicate that the player who does all 9’s has to be better. Obviously, that isn’t an accurate assumption. What it is, is an educated guess based on a relatively trusted calculation.
And yeah, I have to use my experience when selecting groups. I hate healing fail runs, it’s incredibly stressful and absolutely no fun for me. Mistakes are one thing; but when people continually fail to interrupt Death Bolt Volley in KR, or get hit by Kula’s axes, or stand in Eudora’s Grapeshot . . . I’m not going to have a good time. Rather than pumping out DPS between big blows, I have to emergency spot heal. Doing that 100% of the time is awful.
That’s what I mean. You have developed a bad experience by not just using someone’s IO score, thus you therefore have adapted by seeking out higher IO score players. That doesn’t mean that someone who doesn’t meet your (again, in the general sense) IO threshold isn’t just as, or more, capable as someone at that threshold, it’s just you’d rather not take the risk.
That’s why Blizzard should really should take this problem head on in Shadowlands. A system that can express to players (at least in the sense of a non-new player) another players experience with robust metrics. We shouldn’t find ourselves where players feel like they have to make educated judgements on others based on a potentially flawed number.
The RIO addon shows the highest key you’ve completed on the map in question, too.
Let’s say I’m looking at three different DPS for a +10 Kings’ Rest, all of whom have roughly 1k IO. The mage has timed a +7, the lock a +11, and the DH has a busted +8 on their record.
I’m taking the lock, even if their score is slightly lower than the other two DPS’ers, because they’ve successfully completed the content I’m looking to run.
However, if the lock has a very low score, say, sub-500, I’m going to think twice and pull them up on the website.
On the flip side, if I’m running anything higher than a +14, I’m looking everyone up because their experiences with the affixes start to matter.
Does that make sense?
Even without io you will still be waiting and having trouble getting into groups. You know there are like 100 dps queuing up for every mythic+ group?
This is not an io issue, and it never will be.
you know i can see the highest key you have done each dungeon right?
ok 10s are not hard
i mean you main does have more letters in the name
She is just sooooooo hard to find, right?!