…than when I started running tank for them. The amount of groups I’ve run into where the dps just flat out ignore the oozes will still managing to do less than 10k dps is staggering
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While not popular with everyone, having to clear proving grounds silver in WoD to queue for heroic dungeons worked really well for me and is still my preferred way to gatekeep content rather than ask for ilvl as it made the experience much better.
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the problem is that in the early weeks the fresh geared gets diluted with the good and u end up with an averagely powered group, by this point, most very strong players have farmed out the dungeons and ur left with fresh players
It’s funny you say that, because I tend to have better luck with people that seem to be stepping into Twilight Protocols for the first time
I’ve seen people in Dragon Soul normal gear pulling numbers they should have already passed before even reaching level 85
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^ this.
Proving grounds were great. It helped people improve and stopped them from going into content they weren’t ready for.
I’m not the kind of guy to throw out insults or be toxic towards them, but there is so many people jumping into heroics/protocols who have no idea how to play their class/role.
And while I don’t get toxic towards these types of players, it doesn’t take much effort to google how to play your class. All you have to do is look it up and practice it. That’s all. But I’ve seen several players over the past week or so that pull horrible dps, or don’t know how to interrupt.
I was doing heroics on my fresh 85 Shaman. And we got Throne of Tides. The tank pulled the mobs down the hallway and there was 2 or 3 healers. We sat there in that one pull for over 10 minutes because nobody but me and the tank were interrupting. We had to wait until one or more of the healing mobs went oom before we were able to kill them.
I get that there’s new players. I get it, not everyone is gonna know everything right away. That’s fine. But if you jump into harder content, you should at least look up some guides on how to improve. That way you’re not holding the other 4 players back.
100% this… last week you started to feel the fall off… this week its fallen off a cliff pretty hard. Most your good players aren’t even that devoted to valor or any LFR gear anymore. I got 3 alts totally kited OS and MS and working on the 4th and final. The difference this week has been just like… holy… fudge…
Starting to get into the DPS geared tanks que up as tanks. Fresh boosted healers in the green sets. Almost all the damage is below what I do in just normal runs without a buff at all. In other words the heroic protocol grind has devolved to the lowest of the low… until well… next week after… and the week after that…
Maybe it sees a little jump later in the phase once the rerolls for MOP start to come into play. Maybe.
Just kick em i do and we clear the dungeon flawlessly
They obviously dont care about anything else other than loot so why should you suffer for their ignorance. Remove them
Loved it too but at the end of MoP it was very, very easy to get Silver or even Gold just by the fact that the legendary gem and cloak were so broken even when scaled down.
In WoD it was the same with the ring.
Maybe disable them in Proving Grounds or somth.
In Wod the point is you needed to do it early to queue for heroic dungeons else you simply couldn’t queue. I’m not talking about it being relevant for the whole expansion as heroic dungeons didn’t scale in wod so they were only relevant for the start of the expansion moreover if you got the legendary ring you’d normally be way beyond heroic dungeons.
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