Never Forget. The Alliance kept orcs as slaves

Most of the clans joined willingly, durotan’s clan refused in WoD, but that was about it. The rest of the orcish population was happy to commit genocide and invade another world to kill the population there as well.

You can make excuses for murderous psychopaths all day, but that doesn’t make them any less evil. Also your last point is after the orcs were trying to wipe out the draenei, it’s funny how you leave that out and try to gloss over the orcs second attempted genocide of the draenei.

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We only KNOW of what happened When Garrosh went thru we know very little of the Orcs home world only what fragments we have been handed by the bad writing. you seem to forget some were against the Iron Horde others were deeply tied in nature .

We know what Garrosh did and how he changed history. But so much is missing and not explained and yet you just assume all orcs are just plain violent.

Or they decided that after the Orcs had nearly wiped out the Draenei people in two different versions of Draenor, that they couldn’t be trusted and went on the offensive now that they had an advantage.

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Their history in our world and AU Draernor shows it. As was pointed out they weren’t forced they willing drank the blood for conquest. It is their personality. Are their outliers, likely. Doesn’t change their makeup.

Nothing ever indicated the Draenei did it out of vengeance. Rather, they did it because the floating wind chimes they worship told them to.

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AND here we are another person who misses the whole point which is the Draenei fled there own world landed on the Orcs world and thus brought the Legion to Draenor. Maybe if they stayed and fought on Argus the Legion might have missed the Orcs.

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Should have killed them all when we had the chance.

I’d like to thank the OP for this reminder.

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That is true but that doesn’t mean they didn’t enjoy a little revenge :slight_smile: I still think having that story line brought forth into our time line would be cool. I would love to see the Dark Portal reopened by the Draenei and see them bring their crusade into our world.

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No thanks the Alliance already had a fit over Yerl being changed.

Bloodthirsty invading force travels through a portal after ruining their own world, leaving destruction in their wake, and showing no mercy for random human peasants along the way.

They’re defeated by the culture they intended to eliminate/replace, and with only ‘exterminate them’ or ‘expend lots of resources trying to keep them in internment camps’ as options they broke themselves trying to be the better culture. Sure, there were individuals that probably went too far, but I imagine most of them had lost loved ones to people that objectively had no right to be in Azeroth at all, let alone the eastern kingdoms.

If any ‘race’ is fundamentally evil in WoW, it’s the undead. I don’t know if the quest existed in post-cataclysm undercity, but I still remember the quest where the undead are trying to turn a captured Tauren undead. Because that’s definitely what an ally does. Or all the times the undead just accidentally released the plague, despite their agreeing NOT to use it.

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Wrong, we have the Second Warcraft Chronicle, which goes in detail on Orcish lore. You also don’t get to toss that information out as bad writing if you want to actually make any viable arguments about said storywriting in general.

Case in point. The existing storywriting (including the Chronicles which Blizzard have put together as comprehensive lore) is either worthy of discussion, or there’s no point in that claim.

Even if there wasn’t any greater purpose than that, it’s still fewer genocides on their leaders’ orders than the orcs.

Yeah and we know how much was retcon in that book

If you’re going to toss out the lore that’s fundamental to the topic you’re arguing over, why even bother with the discussion?

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You do understand they stood no chance in hell at that point in time, they fled to save what was left of their people. The Orcs have no one to blame but themselves, they had an option and they choice power.

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Never forget it was the Lorderon humans who are now the undead that kept the orcs as slaves! =p

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Cause your so willing to support it even though the company has admitted they changed it and ruined many things. Like the Wrathgate, Sylvannas and a host of others.

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Yeah that was a mistake, they should have killed them all.

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So what they came to another planet and refused to warn the orcs yeah really good alliance friends you have.

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Bloodthirsty invading force travels through a spaceship after ruining their own world, leaving destruction in their wake, and showing no mercy for orcish clans along the way.

They’re defeated by the culture they intended to eliminate/replace, and with only ‘exterminate them’ or ‘turn them into handy infrastructure projects’ as options they broke themselves trying to be the better culture. Sure, there were individuals that probably went too far, but I imagine most of them had lost loved ones to people that objectively had no right to be in Draenor at all, let alone Talador.

If any ‘race’ is fundamentally evil in WoW, it’s the Dwarves. I don’t know if the quest existed in post-cataclysm Silvermoon, but I still remember the quest where the Dwarves and Night elves are trying to destroy the Blood elf anti-scourge defenses. Because that’s definitely what a potential ally does. Or all the times the Dwarves attack peaceful villages, despite them claiming to be the good guys.

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