this is lame at this point. might as well embrace it and block them all from pvp and just give dps and healers a flat bonus on top of the trinket set bonus
The tier sets have way too much cleave in them. They’re going to unintentionally break a lot of CC.
So yes, I upvote disabling them in PvP. PvP should have its own tier bonuses on the Conquest gear.
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Devs will never understand that we don’t want or need their wacky PvE stuff in PvP. When they add tier sets to PvP or introduce stupid new PvP trinkets at the end of every xpac I just feel like Godzilla in that eat your vegetables meme getting PvE gimmicks jammed down my throat.
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This makes no sense. Just add PvP tier sets at this point
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This would be a lot easier to balance. I support this idea 100%.
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Tbh the simpler solution has always been to disable them in PVP and balance specs. Tier sets/leggos/borrowed power have been nothing but a hinderance in trying to balance specs.
Would rather have no set bonus and cleaner gameplay
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Oh my sweet child. Nothing is simple when dealing with Blizzard’s balance team. They could botch a bubble bath.
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That’s why you make it as simple as possible and not balance around external factors.
They also need to prune mod stacking and get ability damage right so its more consistent.
Not that they will ever do it. Just would be nice to see.
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Any hope I had left for Blizzard’s logical decision making was lost when they decided to do a full class rework at the end of the season that decimated the brackets. There is no honeymoon phase, it’s just them disappointing us constantly at this point.
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I would also vote for disabling PvE Set-bonus in PvP.
It just adds more imbalance to PvP.
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No… add nothing. Disable them.
The specs itself offer enough.
We don’t need more weird proccs in PvP.
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What’s really awkward is when they start to attach fun gameplay to set bonuses. People complain about “boring” set bonuses, but then also complain when they lose set bonuses that are interesting and dynamic… a good example being the Preservation 4-set, which gives instant Living Flames. The spec is going to feel worse without it.
Otherwise agree that they should just scrap set bonuses for PvP, though.
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No i want tier sets and corruption I want more borrowed power
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Big agree, my rotation going to feel so much worse with out the free mongoose bite procs. Some of these really should be talents in the spec trees.
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I wasn’t even thinking about that. That’s gonna blow
I think PVP conquest set should be simple like
(2) : Reduce PVP Talent cooldown by 20%
(4) : Increase PVP Talent Damage/Heal by 20%
(8) : Equip chance to gain 1000 versatility
Intentionally halving them then making further adjustments later seems preferable to shipping them as-is and making tweaks over the first 1-3 months. Obviously there will still be tuning and problematic bonuses but it’s easier to deal with ones that are at half power.
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We’ve had this before and the balance was still trash. The actual issue is/are the philosophies the devs use when balancing specs. Has been all along.
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I like how some tiers basically were untouched. The sp one literally only took a 50% on the app damage. Not the 15% devouring plague or the 30% mind blast.
Great, you just gave them an idea for a new bubble for shamans. What do you have to say for yourself?
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