So first things first uhhhh…arcane needs to get a holy hand gernade thrown at them in the nerfs department because doing 2 million aingle target damage and 4-6 million in aoe is just bonkers.
Second thing when you guys nerf arcane mage PLEASE give the damage buff to demo and destro warlock. For the people who play aff let them enjoy it but lets be real aff is the least visually fun spec while having to manage 5-7 dots on multiple targets is just bad design and is a nightmare. Now im not calling for aff to get nerfed im calling for demo/destro to be improved.
Final point is for my shaman buddies, please PLEASE make it so that for storm bringer shammy their hero talent empowered lightning bolt can benefit from maelstrom weapon and be instant cast, having to pause your DPS to cast your hero talent is just so SO amazingly clunky
Arcane deserves a time to shine, even if a few nerfs are needed.
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Got owned by an Arcane mage 
TO DA FORUMS 
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I dont care about me getting destroyed by arcane mage in DPS when they are so far ahead of literally every other spec competing against them is like trying to win a 1000 meter dash against someone who can drive their car
Man TWW hasn’t even started and people are whining about numbers on beta?
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Imagine calling for nerfs to beta abilities that have not been tuned yet.
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Yes this is what is called an “outlier” on the DPS charts arcane mages are leaps and bounds ahead of literally every other DPS spec its actually nutty.
Guaranteed you wouldnt rush to the defense if this was ret paladin we were talking about though
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Arcane has been special needs for a long time. It’s about time it came to the top of the charts for a bit.
Ret pally has consistently done well from my expireince over the course of an entire expansion and I see them all the god damn time in every flavor of content.
Can you say the same about Arcane over the last two years?
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Imagine calling out a dude asking for Arcane mages to be tuned when Beta is now in the tuning stage.
Arcane mages are definitely far far ahead of other classes/specs. To the point that they actually trivialize some content making any testing and balancing ineffective. Did you do or see any Mythic raid testing? Absolutely stacked with arcane mages. Unless of course they are where Blizzard wants them to be, which means they need to balance a whole lot of specs up by a lot. There are a few others that are topping charts but none are nearly as consistent and persistent as arcane mages.
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Arcane should be living in fear for the eventual nerf bat. They’re gonna get hammered with a 30-40% nerf just before launch.
I mean, yeah: every class that does well gets wanged with the bat.
That having been said Lettng them have a moment to be BiS would be a nice change of pace.
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I’m fine with arcane blasting. It warms my heart whenever there are ret nerfs, however.
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Arcane is consistently the forgotten mage spec due to Fire and/or Frost being at the top of the heap. No reason it can’t be strong for a bit before we reach the point of the expansion where Fire starts deleting everything.
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My machine gun spec is owning nice
Ret has historically underperformed for the history of the whole game. It is the most played class/spec in the game.
Brief moment of shine in 10.0.7, it has been an average performer since.
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It’s beta numbers dude, Arcane is obviously not going to remain in the state it’s in tuning wise.
It’s the playstyle that Blizzard has done good on, just hope the numbers end up good so arcane doesn’t end up playing second fiddle to fire or frost.
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That hasn’t been my expierience for the last expansion. I’ve pretty consistently seen them cranking big numbers in DPS.
I think we still need to see nerfs to Ret paladin defensives.
Remember, Ret paladins have basically the same defensive kit as DK and Warlock
- Extra Stam
- Absorb shield
- DR wall
- Self sustain
Except Ret gets their DR wall 3x as often AND has access to BoP and Divine Shield.
Imagine how insane it would be to bring warlocks and DK’s up to parity by giving them BoP, Divine Shield, and cutting their DR cd by 50-66% in recharge time.
The answer is obviously that Blizz messed up big when they gave Ret both SoV and DP at the same time on one minute cd’s, and the cd’s of SoV and DP need to get cranked up.
(in before “how dare a mage complain about defensives”, this is a forum alt, feel free to nerf mage’s many defensives).
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Except youre wrong, the only solid defensive if you want to call it that we have is divine purpose which is a flat 40% damage reduction. Ive been on beta my self sustain doesnt exist at all and I will attribute that to the stats being out of line and tuning not being up to par but I cant spam WoG’s without running out of mana FAST.
The most complaints are focused around BoP and Divine shield, a standard raid fight lasts about 2 minutes give or take a couple seconds and depending on difficulty. Which means we get ONE use of it, thats all. The same with turtle, the same with ice block, the same with dispersion.
Realistically you are complaining about an ability we use A SI GULAR TIME in a fight and im getting kind of tired of it. This games toxicity to ret players has gone on long enough especially when right now we are under performing.
This post is an example of why damage meters should go away.
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