Nerf rogues

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nerf rogues, 60-70% damage breakdown is dots and no counter play.

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Rogue lost fewer things in the great prunings of 2014-2016 than everything else. Rogue got stuff back at the same rate as everything else since then. It has been given a plethora of training wheels around stealth. It has retained all of its powerful defensive cooldowns while consistently creeping up in terms of leech/sustain mechanics. Itā€™s not an assasination-only problem either. A Ā± 10% tune between sin/sub/outlaw would only shift the spec that people are playing.

I think the biggest solution just needs to be making rogue fragile and dangerous to play again. It should die super fast if you ever connect with it. It should feel like you are constantly running for your life at the verge of death when you arenā€™t mid-setup/go. If you get caught in stealth, you should not still be guaranteed a full opener. You should move slower in stealth than out of stealth. Using vial in stealth should break stealth. You should not be able to sap from far enough away to accomplish the ability vs something standing in an aoe or flare. Sap, gouge, and blind should all be on the same DR. There should not ever be any mechanic that absorbs damage when rogue vanishes or stealths.

Also, deathmark is pretty much the rogue version of doubletap. It deserves to be treated accordingly.

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Normally i dont like to jump on the pile, but Assa rogues are really, really strong. One of the strongest specs Iā€™ve seen in a long time. They remind me of some wonky pre-patch broken spec that just hasnā€™t been tuned yet for the new expansion. I remember Ret paladin was like this in WoTLK prepatch. DH was similar coming into Dragonflight. This is the level assa rogue has been at for the entire season.

When all the big streamers play rogue, its hard to nerf them cause revenueā€¦IMO. Thats prob why Rogue, warrior, mage, etc are always stronk.

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Perm MS
x2 Hemotoxin shiv sharges.
Sap
Kidney
Gouge
Garrote
Mind numbing
Cheapshot
Blind
Smokebomb
Dismantle
5 Sec kick lockout same CD as every other melee on 4 sec lockout???
Played with a whole variety of classes.

Delete some Abilities from Rogues Blizz thanks.

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Rogue is totally fine. Just look at the awc, they lose 50% of the time. So what if itā€™s to other rogues?

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Probably the best bet. Its a lot less painful facing a class with everything rogue has if they are a glass cannon.

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If you canā€™t beat 'em, join 'em. Working on it here lel

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Deleting shiv and mind numbing poison would be a great start

Make this change first and then they can go from there

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I see some wild little rogues W key people all shuffle at 2700-3k mmr range all the same way and usually go 4-6 rounds pretty easily.

Its like fury warriors from SL dropped their 2h weapons/armor picked up some daggers and leather and decided to run at people the same way. Zero awareness/care but nigh unhealable damage and pressure.

As a caster I love being garrote silenced what feels like endlessly with nelf rogues everywhere though. Iā€™m sure healers love it too and trying to heal through it. Then when I can cast I have some crazy mind numbing on me which feels like 0% haste.

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if you donā€™t play the wii shop channel music on a 10 hour loop while on assa rogue, are you really playing rogue?

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Bro thatā€™s a little far donā€™t you think?

I mean yeah, every kidney I scream "THATā€™S THE MOVE BABYā€™ and have a WA that plays a sample clip from the song ā€œMan of the Yearā€ but thats rogue 101

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i assumed everyone rogue did the same thing as i do on my warrior, wdym

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Buff Rogues. End of story

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Can i get a ā€œWā€ in chat

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