This is ridiculous. I’m not some bad 1400 player, I’ve been playing this game since release, the fact rets got nerfed and still to do what they are able to do. I have to quit this game until they are fixed (i’m not a pleb and don’t que with rets), They have the most damage/off healing/defensive utility to help out team in the entire game. I can go check my REFlex and i’ve faced 19 rets STRAIGHT IN 2S ALONE and I’m OVER 2200MMR IN 2S. Rets are dumb. MMR is screwed. Yall need to release next season and change rets ASAP.
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Ret shouldn’t have even been nerfed the first time
Just cc their go and they’re wet noodles
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Divine Arbiter and Searing Light procs need huge nerfs in PvP. Random “star’s align” burst is horrible.
Bubble needs to reduce the Paladin’s damage done. You shouldn’t be able to perform full burst while immune to everything. The game isn’t going to have a Warrior/Priest in every match.
Judgement Dispel needs a CD. It should be an active spell like Prot Paladin Shield Silence. Makes your next Judgement remove the last Magic Effect applied by the target.
Wings needs either a longer CD, shorter duration, or raw damage/healing nerf.
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agreed… bad game design
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people run this?
It’s not random. Well Searing Light is, but Divine Arbiter is very much something the Paladin can track and line up with their cooldown(s). Not seen anyone use Searing Light though.
I say we should just give Rets a PvP talent that gives them back magic dispell on Cleanse. Cooldown could be adjusted if 8 seconds is too short. But whatever the case, dispell as part of ones rotation should not be a thing.
But i feel like magic dispell is something Ret’s should have, since historically magic dispell has been a big part of their niche/identity.
I am honestly very suprised it didn’t see a reduced duration. I was convinced that Blizzard just hadn’t gotten around to adjusting the duration when the rework was unveiled. But they never touched the duration. The cooldown was the only thing that was changed. Going from 2m to 1m. No thing else.
Wings was nerfed recently though. Going from 20% damage/healing/Crit to 15%.
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what are yall talking about with searing light. been slamming a dummy for 5 mins and it hasnt procd once.
edit just procd
Yeah there’s a new build people are using that takes it, a couple of the dot talents, executioner sentence (counts as a dot), and the hammer of wrath crit talent. Does outrageous single target burst during wings.
unless the spells wording is wrong, none of what you just said should proc searing light
Searing light isn’t the problem, I’m just saying people are taking the talent with that build.
oh i gotchu
*edit i think people are smoking crack if they think searing light is legit. unless this thing has an increased proc chance in pvp scenarios, ive been going ham on a dummy and have gotten 2 underwhelming procs in 10 minutes
Yeah i think people are just testing it out. I also haven’t seen anyone run it and divine arbitor at the same time.
if it had a better proc chance and would act as a more sustain pally build, it would be slick, but that talent is DOA if it performs the same in arena as it does on a pvp dummy
Searing Light only have a 5% proc chance. It pretty much only work in AoE.
They will get nerfed again next week. If not they will lose a huge part of their player base.
I imagine this goes on much longer the game will have the PvP participation of LK Classic.
Wings has a 75% pvp modifier…is now 15% damage heal crit instead of 20%
along with numerous modifiers and self healing capabilities nerfs
Searing light is garbage for pvp, does not proc enough
No more one shot cheese mechanic.
Now what became of this?
Vanguard of justice is not worth taking (less spender damage)
Back to 3 HP finishers
More globals spamming FV from 20yd away with hammer of wrath procs. (More sustainable damage?)
We want heals? Now we have to spam wog sacrificing damage.
JV healing nerfed to 3% max health which is about 10k-12k heals
not worth using.
Pvp damage talents nerfed by 50%, not worth taking
Now we’re 100% forced to run utility talents
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Don’t bother, they wont stop complaining until ret is dumpster tier again. Nerfs were enough. If you want us to give up utility, give us a MS.
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Was in a 2400 MMR game, ret bubbled first global, he went 5-1.
Decided to log on my alt, 2 games had 2 rets, next lobby had 3 rets. I just had to leave.
No one who is unbiased not playing a ret thinks they’re fine.
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Wings already has a nerf you crybaby, it’s 15%, anything else you want to whine about?
Did you come and post in here crying when you saw no Rets at all because they weren’t good?
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Statically improbable considering that Paladin is the most played class right now.
Most of which are obviously Retribution.
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