Nerf Resto Druids

What even is this abomination of a class. Most of the heals come from NPC’s it’s ridiculous.
Put clone on the same CD as Hex. Shamans are gimped in all aspects compared to everything else in the game.

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trolling, rsham is good and definitely not gimped in all aspects of the game lol

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Tbh rsham is the second best healer and is sometimes superior to rdruid in a lot of matchups

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I said shamans in general

But ele shaman is the best caster dps in the entire game

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Comparing 3 shaman specs to the 1 druid healing spec, I don’t get that.

Also like big Jimmy said, ele is pretty good.

Shamans are good when you have good team mates, resto druids are good with potators or gladiators.

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I think rsham is superior at the high end of gameplay in every way.

But for the casual playerbase, rdruid is easier and stronger.

Nah. One is not better than the other. It just depends on what teams are queueing.

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Honest question. Would you rather have hex, earthshield, a kick, grounding, and healing stream or just cyclone?

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Weird question Nas

Nah, not trying to be obtuse or ask a dumb rhetorical.

I think that boomy is totally fine atm and that cyclone is the strongest cc in the game.

I really dont enjoy how, from a boomy/feral pov, the classes survivability is linked to clone and we need to spam it all game.

I think it creates this really weird playstyle where youre getting clones and constantly 2v3ing or youre just dead and it feels really bad from the other team pov too, because it feels more like a whack-a-mole cc stopper minigame or you dont get to play.

Ele shaman has REALLY similar damage pattern and utility to moonkin, but trades off the spammable cc like cyclone for the added tankiness/utility in grounding/kick/earthshield/healing stream.

There’s not a ton of ele on NA, but its by far the most popular caster on EU and widely considered the best, with destro locks a little behind.

That leads me to my question to a shaman player; which would you rather have?

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When you asked I was thinking more in the vein of rsham vs rdruid and it’s just kinda of a black hole if you compare totems, poly immunity etc etc

Think I like shaman because it’s shaman, and at the end of the day if tuning is bad none of the tools matter and if one thing is tuned super high the rest of the kit kinda doesn’t matter there too.

Do the devs keep the rest of your kit dampened because clone is strong? Idk.

Is feral frail because of clone? Not sure, but even with spam clone it’s still overall killable and I don’t think that’s contingent solely on clone.

nerf rdruids and rshams how 'bout that

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Regrowth for boomy at least yeah def

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I queued into a resto druid last night. Had it been a standard melee heavy lobby I would have probably gone 5-1 or possibly even 6-0. Instead it was a double mage, affliction lock, warrior.

With the druid never casting cyclone and never having to actually cast a heal, it was the perfect lobby for them. I had been telling them to just hit the healer after the first round, but no one listened until the last round, he flopped over because he was just hard core pve’ing the lobby.

Going 1-5 cost me all my rating from the last 3 games where I went 4-2, 4-2, 5-1. I love having a nights progress wiped from one poor lobby where I’m just out classed by AI.

I know a lot of healers run very low vers these days banking on not being the kill target. DPS if they’re smart should at least try to hit the healer but I’m sure they didn’t want to risk it maybe? If one healer is dominating every round it would make the smart move to try a different strategy

Yeah, I just started doing 2’s this season with my brother on his healer. Quite often I can solo kill a healer with just pressure. Now in saying this our mmr is only 1900 at the moment, but I can chop through them, especially if my healer is left alone to heal me. With a melee on me giving me so much maelstrom, I’m able to just pump. And with flame shock tics and primordial wave lightning bolts cleaving they just can’t keep up with 100k dps plus for long.

don’t u feel bad for a class that needs 3 caretakers to play for em

Oh that makes sense given the thread title XD

I’m ONLY referring to boomy/feral vs ele/enh tbh.

Ya P significantly with tireless pursuit costing like 6 talent points (druid class tree is literally the worst for moonkin and still not great for feral) and frenzy/NV healing for 0. Not like moonkin can cast regrowth either since its the same school as clone.

Yeah, boomy is in the same position. Feral is more punishable b/c melee obviously, but it also comes with a kick, extra stun, and wall accordingly.

IDK, I like pressing cyclone, I think it’s an awesome button. I don’t like having to spam it the entire game, though (versus melee).