He strikes me as one of the hunters that knows that their class was busted and refuses to admit it, wanting to remain busted.
Absolute 
behavior
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CoH competes with the strongest spell in the game and you found a fight (turtle boss) where it performs better. CoH can’t be bad if you can ever choose to give up Penance for it.
Obviously it’s not as strong as Penance overall, that much is obvious, but then we don’t prefer for more abilities to be completely bonkers so eh.
Personally Penance should take inspiration off Disc Priests Currently, shift some of its power from healing to damage, but when used offensively it’s Dark Penance a Shadow Spell.
Penance is infinitely better for dps over SW:Death and has zero downsides and future proofs its use in phase 2 to be only used offensively as a Shadow Priest.
But I think a flat out nerf is going to put Priests in a tough spot, outside of healing we are currently non existent, Penance is truly carrying the class currently.
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Penance has carried the class entirely. I don’t think anyone cares about what the vulpera from moonguard has to say. lol
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The entire point of being a priest is to heal… its the primary function of our class. Two of our three specs (Disc and Holy) focus primarily on healing. Shadow is supposed to be a DPS spec, but even with them group healing is an integral part of their utility at higher levels… at least in Classic.
The other heals classes all have at least one super strong DPS spec and two have a solid tank spec. You can be a Druid, a Pally or a Shaman and never be seen as either a primary or off-spec healer. If you play a Priest, you are ALWAYS a healer.
Doesn’t matter if you play PvP or PvE… do only a few dungeons or have been in every raid since Classic first came out… if you play a priest, you will be pigeon-holed into the healer role. Why? Because as you pointed out, in general priests heal better and more efficiently than other heals classes.
In a raid situation, the other heals classes have a chance because they bring unique abilities and utilities for large groups that priests don’t have… like the Druid battle rez, the Pally lay on hands or Shaman totems. In their DPS specs, these classes can also compete effectively with other “pure” DPS classes… something a Priest usually can’t do - at least not a Classic era priest.
For an SoD priest who will never ever set foot in a BG, nerfing Penance is like telling a Warrior to wear cloth and use a wand while tanking.
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yeah nerf penance before every warrior has their mortal strike and every rogue has their full 30s CC kit 
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Dont have a better come back other than coming after me for my server/race? I’ve seen how powerful penance is. I’ve watched priests getting beat on by 2-3 people heal to full and two priests chaining penance between each other keep themselves alive without breaking a sweat.
Penance is absolutely busted and needs to be brought in line. You sound like the hunters angry they got rightfully nerfed.
Are you really gonna act like priests in vanilla/classic WoW weren’t already god tier solo classes before these changes came along?
How many years did you say you played this game?
LMAOO this!
Reading these kinds of wishy-washy posts is like that scene in Billy Madison when he’s trying to explain “business ethnics.”
You can just be the best healer by a smaller margin
You can just be a balanced and good healer
They can buff the other specs more
If they take God-mode away from your healing spec it doesn’t mean you are garbage. This is what we tried explaining to the hunters.
It isn’t just be overpowered or be underpowered, this has nigh infinite degrees of possible adjustments.
Also it isn’t simply “silence it in pvp”, that is how metas form that deny your silence to protect the overperforming ability because it continues to be cost effective to invest in counter-strategy, A.K.A. have more ret paladins or hunters killing you while you ruin your position chasing a priest 70 yards away.
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Welcome to the hunter’s club.
We have plenty of seats on the nerfbus
Yall are also the worst scaling class in classic wow and I have a feeling a lot of your nerfs are gonna end up getting reversed in future phases. Hunters are always stronger low level.
Why is it that WoW healers are the only ones who ever peddle the idiotic notion that it’d be good for the game to leave it in a terrible state of balance and to have healers (any or all) be blatantly overpowered to try and remedy the role imbalance that has always existed?
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Maybe, but no doubt that priests in pve/pvp are just top tier.
I’m not sure about “OP” or “broken”, that may be a stretch.
It’s not priest’s fault that the other healers were designed with poor tuning.
But you know how these forums are, it’s easier to be negative than positive lol
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pve > pvp,
pvp in classic was never meant to be balanced, and once mortal strike is in game penance will be rofl weak
So then look at it from PvE.
Priest is outhealing the other healers almost on a 2x ratio.
now what?
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Yeah with MS penance will heal for 300 (current level). Oh no a 300 heal every 12 seconds on a long cast.
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Its bc dps are too lazy to kick chains and other classes are 2 lazy to either BoP chains or BoF chains or shape shift chains.
If dps werent lazy and dependable interupters then the demand for priests and dispell would be low.
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This thread again.
Penance heals for 184 a tick, has a 12 sec cd, is channeled and is hyper vulnerable to pushback and kicks.
Skill. Issue.
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This is just…wrong. Or the other heal classes you’re running with are terrible.
Healing Rain is super good in Ashenvale pvp. Resto druids are great in WSG right now AND in PvE.
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