These people with PVE M+ gear are dominating high brackets. Completely unfair that they can just walk into PVP, 0 rating, slap together a team + dominate.
The normal old PVP path of - gear up as PVP, earn rating, climb the latter - POOF - all gone.
Now it’s run dungeons, grab gear, be invincible from day one.
Then for us who only play PVP - we can’t do that same thing, running these repetitive faceroll dungeons … we need to climb the ladder … which is absolutely impossible vs those players. Can have people who make zero mistakes - work together fluid & Flawlessly - but just get completely outclassed by these no-talent no-skill PVE tryhards in their M+ unearned gear.
This sucks. So poorly designed / zero thought. Terrible.
PVE gear should NOT be viable in PVE. PVE players should need to EARN their ranking & PVP gear just like PVP players do.
I’m not sure what kind of groups you’re running with, but for the most part I’ve only seen groups wanting players with a decent vers percentage. These mythic geared toons are probably putting their own groups together.
Just because they have mythic dungeon gear doesn’t mean they’re invincible. They can be killed just like everyone else.
Have you ever done Mythic Keystones? They change weekly and some of them are far from “faceroll”
What game are you referencing here? PvE-ers are doing PvP to get gear. You have no clue what you’re talking about. Also, you’re 219 ilvl… so… you’re not getting outgeared, you’re getting outplayed. Stop trolling.
Mythic plus gear has become cancerous for anyone trying to gear alts through pvp and not with a pre-made doing dungeons. I don’t do mythic plus for the same reason I don’t play league of legends, its repetitive gameplay for the braindead. Skill has nothing to do with the current pvp meta, its go grind versatility on mythic plus gear and then go play leap frog in arenas.
Versatility should not be the pvp power in the game…
That only is in context to the first 3 weeks of the expansion, currently post 9.0.5 anyone wanting to play pvp has to have over 24% versatility on a fresh toon. Anyone not having already made over a 1400 rating doesn’t have a chance joining a rated grp unless they pay for a carry or go to mythic plus. That is the issue.
Go play pvp on a unrated toon with your honor gear and see how it feels compared to someone in mythic plus gear post 9.0.5
PvP gear is only efficient for alts if you already had a 1400 rating+ to help them lvl their pvp gear from the get go. Anyone entering the pvp scene either has to pay for a carry or go do mythic plus for a bare minimum of 24% versatility.
I don’t know a single person who uses this method to gear for PVP. Everyone I know just starts doing rated around 180/190 ilvl with a mix of honor/covenant gear. In fact, most PVP players don’t even have IO scores.
I do agree that the primary PVP stat shouldn’t be on PVE gear. Blizzard is changing PVP gear to suck for PVE in 9.1, the least they could do is the same for PVE to PVP gear.
I mean thats how I’ve done my alts? This late in the season it’s much easier to be spoon fed gear by guildies than it is to bother grinding for 1400 gear it’s both faster and easier, even with the nerfs. I haven’t bothered with rated all because what’s the point.
That being said. Nice necro by the completely ridiculous person. It’s better but not like BFA. Additionally nerfing m+ isn’t what we need lol… Give us tbc-wod gearing back.
it’s both faster and easier, even with the nerfs. I haven’t bothered with rated all because what’s the point.