This made me LOL… +1
It’s good to have someone like yourself with the ability to see so clearly into the future.
Could you by any chance give me the numbers for my Saturday Lotto? It would be much appreciated.
I mean we’ve literally seen these systems before (other games have done them).
Feel free to bookmark that post and come back 3 months after housing is released and let me know how that works out for you.
I actually appreciate when Blizzard puts up guardrails to prevent this game from being an antisocial instance simulator anymore than it already is. It’s an MMORPG first and foremost.
And then the year after complaining about it…
It’s a game. Everything is pointless and unnecessary.
Don’t like it? don’t engage with it.
I’m going to ICE raid all the gnomes out of my neighborhood
I think its very interesting that people will be in IRL house and be sitting in virtual house lol
I’ll bookmark it and keep it close to my tiny pink heart.
I am curious though; is housing dead in Final Fantasy?
I wouldn’t say FFXIV housing is “dead”. You don’t see many community events happening like block parties, but I’m sure they’re there.
House-based RP is more common, like restaurants, cafes, bars, and certain places of erotic dimensions featuring basements and people with far too much time on their hands.
EDIT: Also, cults. I don’t know if I was just unlucky, but I stumbled across too many basement cults devoted to Lalafell.
What is WoW without the complaints?
Something else I just realized when it comes to neighborhoods, when describing how private neighborhoods would work, the article says this:
Private Neighborhoods created by groups of friends or guilds to inhabit, progress, and customize together
This could mean that in theory, an individual could create their own “private neighborhood”, not have anyone be part of it and therefore have their own phase of the housing zone.
I think that’s the best way to cater to both parties since Blizzard has already invested time into the current concept of housing and that they don’t want to create “plots” in old zones.
I could get behind this as long as other versions of said rewards could be obtained solo.
Like for example: certain pieces of home decor that are obtained via grouping but there are still some out there that you can get solo.
It wouldn’t be fundamentally any different then say mount or transmog collecting in that some require grouping and some don’t.
lol. For the FFXIV, I will chime in too. It’s dead in the social sense, unless you’re on one of those rare RP wards. I’ve been in multiple wards, the amount of organic contact with others over years and years with that game can be counted on by my hands (like… 7 times).
We want houses, we want them in specific zones and slots, but we can’t have it because of the neighborhood system. We want to be in more locations, but can’t really have that either due to neighborhoods. You’re creatively restricted on the exteriors, and locationally restricted. Yet traveling to other houses isn’t special to neighborhoods, as other games show (with Wildstar being the best example, since the way it did neighborhoods actually made sense vs FFXIVs).
It’s not dead in the “people don’t want houses” sense. People do. Even if they only visit sometimes.
There ARE some houses in wards that organized together and have done cool things. Many cool locations are just one house though, so a single directory of instances could have achieved more (because they could have decorated with more power).
I wont speak for others but I think the system is generally unimpressive because it rarely does what it sets out to do, and the bigger it gets the worse it gets. Unless they use phasing I guess, I honestly think that’d probably force high activity.
On one hand I agree on the other I greatly worry. They said rewards working with your neighbors, will the content scale to size (like a warframe clan almost) or will you be shooting yourself in the face? I also have to ask, if you’re taking an entire zone for yourself, wouldn’t the system still be “better” if were able to be in many locations? I get that’d take more resources, but for argument sake if they do let people solo an entire ward… may as well just make cool other phased spaces.
If they were going to let you do that, would you want NPCS in the other plots or a literally empty zone? NPC might look a bit like FFXIV’s Ishgard zone (the one with NPCs that you do fete quests).
Maybe because of the server I’m on but a lot of adult theme’d places lol. Something something argonian maid.
I would be very surprised if they ever did anything like that with items that can be purchased on the cash shop. Maybe they could introduce a craftable “thing” that you could make and set outside your house that other players could consume/use, but full on steal doesn’t seem compatible with the game (and I guess probably not legal if cash is involved lol)
I am never surprised at the depths to which people will sink. I’m surprised to this day that what goes on in certain locations on certain servers is still allowed to happen in WoW, given their attitude towards things like language and inappropriate behaviour.
Did Wildstar have more than one house location? I stopped playing after a certain point and I could only recall the one house near the main city.
I think about the only way you would have large amounts of housing locations in WoW is if they had gone the way of individual instanced houses as is done in ESO. Doing it that way doesn’t require large zone changes, it just needs an instance area, which is relatively small for a single house. I never saw any social interaction in ESO based on houses but I could have missed some I guess.
Blizzard obviously prefers a set of neighbourhoods; I think they are going to assess how popular the system continues to be over time before they start making more.
You wanna know one thing my neighborhood taught me? It taught me Wu-Tang is for the children, and I think about that every day
Adult-themed houses are unavoidable in FFXIV, especially since the player models look so detailed. I played a Hrothgar and made the mistake of stopping by Limsa at one point to buy stuff and got some pretty wild whispers from players who REALLY liked Hrothgar.
Anyway, I think neighbourhoods are a nice addition. I don’t expect I’ll be attending many community events, but I’m looking forward to seeing how creative people will get with their homes.
They let you have that floaty island thing right? Well later they added the ability for players to push their islands together to make a mega island. Then these players could work together with the same full power as one island, but as a team. So you had literal cities created by people, and then of course in that game there was a lot of power in these systems so it highly encouraged others to visit.
I think when you get like minded people together, like if you had a “static” for housing… neighorhoods can end up being crazy, especially if you give them unfettered power (like Wildstar). It can be ‘cool’ in a more restricted system like FFXIV’s system, which is like DAoC / LoTR (and picture wise looks exactly like what WoW is aiming for), but it is a lot less power.
When you stuff a bunch of randos in the room together, mostly you just see people’s house change sometimes. You go to their guest book if you feel feisty and sign it, and you never see each other …
I agree ESO would have been the many instance option (my prefrence to be honest). Particularly if they phased it many very busy places (good luck servers, but if it worked AWESOME). Like if you had a balcony in Dalaran looking down at the city, and could just hop out and land in the city… holy wow.
There is some social interaction in ESO, probably a little less than FFXIV, but that’s like comparing 1% to 5% lol. They could have added supportive systems and I think it would have gone a long way (like Wildstar). WoW might hit gold with their supportive systems, I am not sure, though I am concerned it’ll feel like you’re compelled / letting your team down type stuff (Garrisons but in a group!.. …).
If they use phasing in neighborhoods then it would probably be fairly busy, just a bit chaotic because every time you zone into the place there will be a lot of changes lol. I think they should proceed as is, but I hope they change their mind on many small locations and allow a mix.
I hope they put additional consideration into the guild neighborhoods, because that could potentially be a neat group activity for the guild, and also needs to address things like slots vs players.
Ever make the mistake of standing in the Quicksands (Ul’dah inn) too long? Wowza…
Whats a warframe? (Pardon my ignorance but I don’t play FFXIV. Or whatever game it is that you are referencing)
They’re going the route of dedicated instanced off zones for housing because retroactively adding plots to old zones would take too much work according to them. And it makes perfect sense why that is. Almost every spot in most zones is used for some kind of quest so you’d either have to design said plot to not interfere with said quests or redesign the zones to accomodate housing plots.
Not sure, it depends on how the zone would look with or without the NPC’s.
To me, it would look weird having a singular house surrounded by empty plots of land.
What are those?