m0s are stupid hard now for players trying to learn. i realize the sweatlords have no issues but u would have far more players in m+ if 0s were like they used to be… a place to learn the dungeon. when ur in fight or flight mode the entire dungeon learning is almost impossible as ur just reacting to the situation and unable to form a broader view of the encounter. why does the lowest tier have to disqualify ppl who cant play 8hrs a day? what was wrong with the old m0s? the old m+ system was far superior. as a medium skilled player its just to nerve wracking to try and learn this now. i dont wanna even try because i dont wanna waste the other 4ppls time as a tank.
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If you need a healer for M0s let me know, I tried for 4 hours yesterday to get into a M0 and had no luck. So I started doing the PvP to get close to the 1600 rating for the catalyst and that slowed down as well.
To be fair, I am only 621 ilvl on my healer, so more qualified and geared healers are taking the spots since its early. I will probably just focus on Delves this week with Brann, but I feel you.
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I dont do any pve besides levelling to max to pvp. This is a major reason why. Also delves are stupid
Maybe we can start a Big Brother program where people who can do higher than M0 get rewards for joining a M0 once a day to help out. I would do that. Maybe if you do that enough you get a season title as Big Brother or Big Sister Season 1, 2, etc. One for each season. I know this sounds dumb but I think it would be fun and it would help people in M0 to get some more players. We could even have it that the low level players get all the drops since the higher level players cant use the gear anyway.
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I think raising the cooldown to a week was a bad idea.
I think m0 would serve a better role as the “endgame” for the queued content crowd, the m+ crowd rarely even does them.
Drop the lockout, nerf the loot appropriately, nerf the difficulty and drop it in the dungeon finder.
That’s my 2 cents on it.
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if they were easier ppl wouldnt be gatekeeping so hard. i just dont get why 0s have to be so difficult. like what was the point of the squish? how does it help anything? skipped last season coz this same issue… its just not fun.
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I did an M0 on my mistweaver monk with ppl that are 620 and lower, it only took us 2-5 tries for bosses. First boss took us about five, second took us about three, and last one took us two. This was darkflame cleft.
my monk was 606 lol.
The new difficultly of M0s is pretty wild. It’s nice that abilities are deadly before 7s+ but the HP on everything makes everything take forever.
I think they may have gone a little too far. As someone that doesn’t need the learning difficulty of 0s I think I am less biased on this topic.
You get a weekly piece of heroic gear from doing delves that arevery easy in comparison. I find the entire pve situation strange
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literally anything would be better than the current state. ur idea would also foster a mentality of mentorship rather than elitism. which this game needs severely.
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They’re called guild.
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What i dont get is why they got rid of the key npc they had in sl / df. Outside of the first week or two, barely anyone does 0s
ah yes… the generic “get a guild” comment. i have a guild. show me a guild where ppl want to slow their progression to help another player and ill kiss ur a… 90% of ppl are just racing to the redlight as fast as possible and could give a crap about anyone else. slow down their progression and they whine like a petulant child.
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As opposed to how you are currently whining? Maybe they just don’t want to do dungeons with you, what with all that attitude.
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Do heroic dungeons. They’re the step below m0
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New season, new dungeons. People are learning including tanks. Give it some time as you adjust to the mechanics.
make your own group… congratz you have the keys to the gate.
Follow the path of progression
Gear up in normal dungeons. Once geared up from normal, move onto the next step
Gear up in Heroic dungeons. Once geared up from heroic, move onto the next step
Run Mythic 0s
Stop skipping steps and they wont feels “stupid hard”
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You mean the Panda lady beside the portal to the Timeways/M+ portal room?
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so…heroics?
I have never wanted to do a mythic at level, I’ve only run them 2+ expansions later when i could solo them
idgaf. heroics have some challenge but are fun
I’m just mad when cool stuff like mounts is mythic only. lower the droprate to like 10% on heroic but let it be possible
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M0 is not hard. We are literally on the first week of the season. If you are not good at Dungeons you should be doing regular and Heroic dungeons and learning the mechanics of the fights. The good dungeon players are running 2s and 4s this week. It is not reasonable for someone who is not a hard core M+ player to complain M0’s are too hard when the first week is not even done yet. If they are still hard for you in the 4th week of the season you may have a reason to complain, but not in the first couple days of the season.