STOP IT INEMIA
YOU’RE BREAKING THE UNIVERSE
Yes this is a complete sentence.
WE HAVEN’T CROSSED ANY BEAMS YET, WE’RE GOOD!
What in the world is happening?
flarkness got triggered apparently, he now saying any opinion i have is me supposedly spreading misinformation and deleting any comment i make on discord. this is why Realz use of discord was a mistake, not everyone has free and fair access to that discord to discuss the talent changes.
Free and fair, sure you do, just don’t say anything. Then you can have access to all the information you need. :] you do spread misinformation he wouldn’t say it if it wasn’t true.
like what? speculation is just opinion, but mainly flarkness was saying he has evidence of me being on discord spreading misinformation for months. that itself is misinformation because today is the first time i’ve been on that discord in probably a year, and it was to get Realz comment and post them here.
and i was quickly reminded why i dont hang out in that discord. for a channel named “pvp-main” only rated pvp(mainly 3s) is considered, any mention of epics is laughed at.
considering Realz mentioned that reanimation is used by casuals, and they are doing map adjustments for epics means that epics do get attention from the devs, meaning the statement that only 3s matter is objectively false, or that epics dont matter is also false. further you can take some logical leaps with another statement i made: a casual reanimation DK will know and understand how to use reanimation better than a 3s glad, and i backed that up with some logic: reanimation isn’t really viable in arena, so glads dont use it, meaning glads never get exp with it to really learn when/where it is viable. the end result is that the glad called it a meme while the casual knows its OP, very OP, when used right.
this is the kind of stuff that gets called “spreading misinformation”.
I’m sure a gladiator player knows more things then a casual, you can think what you think but at the end of the day no one is going to listen to someone who plays the game mainly for epic bgs, sorry
They are unbalanced and people go there to have fun.
But… it is free access…
Did you do something to piss them off to block you or something? I’m in the discord as well. All I did was join the server a few months back and that was it…
not at a spell the gladiator never uses and the casual uses all the time, in that exact situation the roles are reversed and the casual has more knowledge and expertise.
but like i said, the reason the devs should have not chosen that discord is the community can be somewhat toxic to people who dont drink the koolaide. im now reading back through stuff and apparently flarkness also blames me for not being able to post on the forums, and he said i was born in a hornets nest. like he spends way too much time thinking about me and i can tell you its not reciprocated.
if he can’t post on the forums because he can’t win an argument thats a problem with his lack of debate skill, not my ability to foil his position. he sits on discord so he can do stuff like this:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/800696408448565311/843966027670880286/unknown.png
like, we were fine, we were even having some screenshot fun and then he came in and said that and started attacking. exactly proving my point as to why it is a bad idea for the blues to communicate on that specific discord.
at least here the blues have moderation so you don’t end up with some players being bullied out of the discussion.
i dont kiss the ground flarkness walks on, thats all.
I don’t think anyone really “kiss the ground” that he walks on.
I’ve never really seen anyone behave like that there…
What is happening and what you think is happening are two different things, when you bring some useful information to the table and stop looking like a forum troll your words may be more appreciated.
then you got me, the times im there is just trolling and banter between pvpers with snippets of questions answered about stuff, but then flarkness comes in and like has to do some sort of bully display proving he’s better than me( at doing bully displays).
but like seriously, we were fine on there for hours then he drops in and started with that, so idk what his problem with me is, but i dont have a tiny flark living in my head rent free the way he has a tiny inemia.
i’ve tried talking about stuff, but i will literally get cut off and pounced on before i can even get to my point. which is my point about why its a toxic place. you assume i troll all day, but there’s a reason im almost honor 400 and kelliste isn’t, i actually do pvp, and i pvp a lot.
like, im not sitting here after playing 50 games and then acting like i know pvp, im probably close to 5000 games. full bgs, not short arenas. thats a lot of pvp with a lot of all types of pvp included.
i also covered this a bit earlier:
i freely admit i have gaps in my knowledge, and i know where they are. the ability to do that seems to be missing from a lot of pvpers.
flarkness is terrible don’t mind him
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I know Flarkness is somewhat a bit of short fused and I don’t really approve his most recent action. I wish he didn’t delete the things you posted to give more of a context of what exactly just happened.
While both him and Jholagian weren’t wrong about how people view of epic battlegrounds relative to the gladiators who did rated pvp and I’m sorry to say this Inemia but I have to stick to them that they have a greater credentials and are more likely to be right about those said pvp class changes as 3s is currently the pinnacle of PvP content.
The last thing the devs want to see is arguments like this in a discord where all Dks go there and talk about conflicting Dk stuff which I can kinda see why Flarkness removed them but at the same time I want to see how the conversation pan out and it is up to the dev’s discretion if it is civilized or not.
To me, it seems like neither of you two are.
Talking to a dev is not a common occurrence and I do understand it isn’t fair for you to miss out on it. I missed out on it. I read his stuff and it was pretty insightful and it is in the Dk community’s interest to keep their attention at all time for the sake of what’s best for the class overall.
I’m worried that you dug yourself in a hole big time to the point where people there will not take any of your words seriously. People say a lot about Kelliste and makes me wonder if me hanging out here was such a good idea to begin with.
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and had that discussion been allowed to conclude naturally, i would have agreed with their viewpoint. they made the statement that epics dont matter at all, and thats just plain objectively false, here’s a thread on it:
Upcoming Changes to the Ashran, Isle of Conquest, and Wintergrasp Epic Battlegrounds
basically this thread’s existence shows the devs do in fact care about epics, even if a little bit, negating the statemen that epics dont matter at all.
while i was getting that they moved the goal posts and stated to show only class balance changes, not map or general balance changes. i’ll be honest, this caught me off guard, esp with him sitting there poking me about it, so i didn’t really have time to think of a good answer. of course his response then must be that i have no answer, not that i can’t think of one.
for what exactly? i have posted feedback about the talent changes and nobody seems to be commenting on that, just that i play casual. so if the content of what im saying can’t be attacked then what im saying is fine. not one person has pointed out where they have found issues with what i said or stuff that conflicts. is my math with NW wrong? is doomboom more viable than i think? nobody has anything to say on that because they dont know anymore than i do, yet.
what’s frustrating about this whole situation is i was like 30 seconds from taking my words back about the blues using that discord. i sat there for a few hours and hung out and it was really fine, until flarkness showed up. so if this is anyone’s fault, its his.
I do recall they added a cap for Gorefiend’s Grasp in MoP as well as Solar Beam for RBGs when Gorefiends was available to ALL Dks. It was a very powerful talent. I bet you played it and you loved it.
There are no class changes specifically tailored to Epic BGs however. And if the premise of saying “Epic BGs don’t matter at all”, I’d agree with you. idk if Jholagian or Flarkness would. But I think it’s a valid to say that it does matter considering they did make a change for Epic BGs. But I think what your opposing party is saying that Epic BGs hardly warrant any class specific changes unless something is absurdly broken like the OG Gorefiend’s Grasp in MoP.
I even got my feedback on NW. Like i said, it is a very strong talent. I just don’t like that it’s just another MS now that stacks with OG MS. But after my interaction with RmZ, I got over it.
And trust me, like I said. I do not approve of Flarkness removing your statements. While you and him were rabbling, I was like “WTF just happened”, then walked the dog and then came back. I don’t like his hotheadedness but I respect him just as much as I respect you.
I just hope you aren’t stubborn as him.
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You’ve got to be over the top blunt and succinct to make sure people take what you say in the proper context, which I assume is epic and random bgs. If you aren’t then people will pounce, especially if they are reading or listening with the intent to respond instead of understand.
To be fair, if you are trying to equate something that’s good in casual content to the what is most optimal in 3s then I understand (but don’t agree with) the modding.
I assume you didn’t know that some years ago either Ion or Gregg Street came right out and said that 3s was the major point of balance. I don’t believe they’ve shifted from that philosophy even though they’ve made arena achievements available in 2s and rbgs again. If you did know that and disagree with that philosophy that’s a whole other can of worms.
People won’t say or do anything to you that you don’t give them permission to. You’re smart, so I think you know what I’m saying in regards to that section of the community.
On the topic of DS, the fact that no one can do anything but attack the content you do as a counter argument ought to tell you something as well. Don’t take it too seriously.
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… and then…
… There’s statements like “We’d rather you not play Demonology”
… Still hurts man…
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