Nearly Impossible to Find Groups Outside of Northrend

Let’s use logic and syllogism here:
Statement A: spam-whispering everybody in a zone is effective.
Statement B: the LFG tool isn’t.
Conclusion: spam-whispering everybody in a zone is more effective than the LFG tool.

None of these statements are in the previous premise. Thus, it isn’t a logical conclusion. However, we can infer that people aren’t spam-whispering everybody in a zone, because they aren’t getting the wanted result. It doesn’t say anything about the lack of tools, but it says something about the lack of willingness or skills to do what’s effective.

So, group decided to do a different dungeon (LBRS) after group was formed so I left since I wanted to do BRD. This wouldn’t have happened with RDF (edit) LOL!!

No biggie… back in Q!

It’s true. However, it’s RDF, not RFD.

Right-o! Well, now that I am back in queue, I’ll start picking up the quests (and do chain quests) for yet another dungeon option… just to be productive until another group forms.

They need to add RDF region wide for at least levels 10 to 70 for vanilla to TBC leveling. Trying to get a non WoTLK group on Eranikus is darn near impossible.

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Then tell me why the players who are interested in running dungeons aren’t running dungeons.

Cool. So as long as it’s primetime, and you’re playing a tank, and you’re looking for a group for arguably the most popular dungeon that isn’t current content, it might take a person only 12 minutes to find a group. I bet the DPS in your group would still be waiting if you wanted to actually play as DPS. How long were they looking before you joined?

So, at the moment, we’re looking at RDF pushing ahead of the LFG tool.

Exactly this. You hit the nail on the head.

A few things about this linked dungeon-run example:

  1. They’re on Whitemane - 99.8% Horde, so I highly doubt they’re playing Alliance
  2. They admitted that the group didn’t actually run the dungeon they had queued up for

So, it really doesn’t take just 12 minutes.

Yes. The majority of players lack the willingness or skills to do what’s effective in order to assemble a group (a very important part of World of Warcraft), given the current state of the game. An obvious solution would be to modify the game in such a way that assembling a group is better suited to the willingness and skills of the players. No?

So manually putting groups together with people exclusively on your server is much, much faster than RDF.

They choose not to.
You said it yourself. They can whisper people.

Next?

Players shouldn’t have to whisper others if the LFG was as good as you’re all saying it is.

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Subjective, we don’t have factual data to tell who’s the majority. I wouldn’t say willingness is the issue, for people do want to run dungeons.

No, an obvious solutions wouldn’t be to modify the code that was written 14 years ago or more with people that weren’t involved with the coding back then.

Some people argue that catering to the masses is what led WoW to its decline. So no, it isn’t obvious.

So they shouldn’t be playing an mmo?

Got it. Glad you got that off finally.

Single player games can be found on Steam.

Right, so given the best possible set of circumstances (mega-server, primetime, playing a tank, very popular dungeon), it’s been over half an hour and you’ve yet to join a group for the correct content, let along step foot in the dungeon.

If willingness wasn’t the issue, then why do people insist on just sitting in queue?

…what? A LFG tool should work on its own. It shouldn’t require the players to whisper others (randomly)

So players shouldn’t be required to be social in a game genre thats all about being social?

Keep digging yourself a hole, I like filling them in.

Randomly whispering someone isn’t being social. Randomly inviting someone isn’t social.

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Contacting someone by definition is being social.

I get you. You want this game to be a single player experience and aren’t in any way interested in the mmo aspect. Glad you finally admit to it.