Naxx requirements

Mhm.

Shouting elitism and gatekeeping.

Your gonna go places.
Straight to the bench

Having a opinion different than yours is trolling hmm?

Pitiful generation of gamers.

Okay last response. I’m not shouting and I don’t think there’s an issue with gatekeeping. I’m not at all passionate about this - though I enjoy showing tossers up.

I have a guild etc.

But you’re correct about the claims that you’re elitist. I reckon you think that because you’re elitist it makes you good. It doesn’t. You’re all talk and bravado. As requested, I showed you a parse. You, in return have done nothing but gass bag about your “standards”. You don’t even post on your main.

PS. I’ll link how much my under geared booty gets carried in tonight’s 25 too.

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Again. Your definition of elitism is not elitism. It’s common expectation.

If you think that’s elitism, you are very wet behind the ears.

I looked at your gear, and you’re not “undergeared”.

Your item level is low because you have some sunwell/tier 6 gear on, but you also have your BiS weapons, BiS helm, a few other BiS items from rep and heroics.

Let’s not be disengenious here man. Your current gear is FAR above questing greens and blues like you’re trying to make it out to be.

ToS states I can’t link or promote my own stream. Make a character on pegal and send me a message. I’ll give you the link.

Rèvék is the character name I’ll be on

Record it and post. It’s not hard.

it wont let me post 1st of all. Second that’s against the ToS. 3rd come watch now. I’m still questing at 991k xp an hour not even trying hard

Find a way to record it, I’m not getting into discord with you for 3 hours for you to prove it’s not 15 minutes worth of “burst” xp from turn in’s in quick succession.

All that talk, you say you don’t have rested xp. ALL THAT GLOATING and you didn’t have the forethought to log into a character your were going to play to get rested xp. I don’t even know anymore. Gonna chock it up to you being a giant troll, and ignore is happening I guess. GL with your imaginary 1M+ while questing ONLY. LUL

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The addon shows how long the session has been going. I’ve been going for just under an hour and a half. And it shows that. It’s okay though, you were given the chance to be proven wrong, thinking i would not actually stream it lol. And of the 2 of us I have an 80 with 1/2 nax gear, and ill be 80 on my warrior sometime tomorrow. Won’t push as hard on it as i did my pally.

I told you that the account was inactive. Thus no rested xp. And I dont need 6 bars of rested xp to level fast lol… Obviously.

Brutal gear all the way into 80 and into naxx baybeeeeee

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Also show me anywhere in any of my posts where I gloated about anything, minus the dig at you just now about my 80 in nax gear.

Again you have entire conversations in your mind that never actually happened. You may want to get that checked out.

Soon as I get to 80, Ill keep you posted bb.

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Amen. Total hypocrite.

Anyways he asked me for logs and I delivered - what’s he given? Nothing but hot air.

As to the charge that I wasn’t undergeared - I was a looong way from full prebis - 8 pieces off. And besides, I’m Fury (Oh noes! Not meta!), arguably the most gear dependent spec in the game - what can I say, I find it more fun than Arms. Sunwell and BT gear is about equivalent to 78-80 Blues.

I’ll link my 25 man logs (as I promised I would) but I upped my gear a little by last night so I can’t really call it “undergeared” anymore (ilevel 181) - but still on the low side and not full prebis at all. It still illustrates that aside from tanks and healers you don’t need super good gear to do well enough to “not be carried”. Again, not claiming to be stellar. Thirtysix asked me for logs and I’m good to my word.

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fmqXbawW2tYPTdKn#fight=34&type=damage-done

The core argument I’m making is that if you get some crafted gear and enchant/gem your stuff you can go straight from leveling into Nax 25 as a dpser no problem and not be carried if you’re half competent. It’s not hard or demanding and the gear requirements aren’t high (for dps). Tanks (specifically the ones taking hatefuls) and healers need to be well kitted out though.

There’s a lot of needless bravado talk and hot air with the whole “if you’re not close to prebis by week one you’re doing it wrong” crowd. I especially loved the “you’ll be bench warming Ulduar if you’re not prebis now” one! I mean, we will all be in full T7 bis by then … have you seen how many items drop in Nax 25! We have months of Nax ahead… having people rush this phase as a “requirement” is circle jerk and absurd. Do so yourself if you want to by all means. But pushing it on others, and all the moral panic about “undergeared” people in Nax is silly.

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Again, you’re being disengenous. You’re in Sunwell and Tier 6 gear, that’s better than any green and blue leveling gear from an itemized standpoint. Furthermore you have your BiS weapons, helm, trinket, and other items.

Also, I never said DPS needed to be geared. I said TANKS needed to be geared because of patchwork.

My other statements also had nothing to do with the gear you NEEDED, but the ease of access of the gear once you’re 80. It literally takes 2 world tours to be almost fully kitted out in pre raid BiS. And why would a pug, and keep in mind that’s what we were originally talking about here… Why would a PUG want to bring somebody in quest blues and greens over somebody who at least put in a the minimal effort of 24 heroics to get pre raid bis over the span of 2 weeks?

And yes I know how much drops in nax 25, our main tanks are almost fully kitted now, it ws a bit nuts. More drops than I remembered honestly.

One of the most, but I would say Ret and kitty are up there with it. I also don’t think fury is a bad spec, I usually main warrior and was fully planning on going fury as well but our main pally tank had to quit the game for work right before launch.

The last point I’ll make, is you seem like a good player. You clearly understand itemization and again, without you trying to be disengenous you know that sunwell/t6 gear is itemized very well for your spec and perfectly fine for 10 mans.

But if you were in there with 171 item level in greens and blues, we both know those numbers are not the numbers you would have put up.

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Smartest way to get crit immunity as protpally pre raiding is adding some pvp items.
Wintergrasp helmet and boots are especially good, and are actually better then the so called pre bis items created by “professionals” for those slots.

So yeah, gearing is easy as a tankpally aswell.

If you mistrust my puny level 10 forum char, check my pally “Ovulation” on Venoxis-Eu, you can see my pvp gear i wear in naxx25 in the logs… and it was overwhelmingly easy.

So what you’re saying is you did the WG exploit/bug whatever you want to call it, and got honor capped in a few hours? Because getting Deadly Gladiator in all those spots would 100% be more time consuming than just farming your pre raid BiS and now that nax is out, the nax 10 gear if you still need a boost to get ready for tanking 25.

its time consuming? guess doing daily pvp/random bg is really time consuming, and a wintergrasp all 3 hours when you are online is borderline impossible

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I don’t know ware you got that number it took me 5-7 hours per lvl

Even tho i like to disagree with Thirtysix a lot, but 5-7 hours per lvl is slow.

Im not saying you “have” to speedlevel, but even whilst questing without premium gear you can get to around 4 hours average per level without problems.

not me, I’ll be running it with my guild the minute I turn 80. Amazing how easy the solution to that problem is.