Anyone can make wild claims without evidence to back it up.
I like how people say they remember how things were in Vanilla 15 YEARS LATER.
Like dude they have a server with the EXACT same data you played with 15years ago. Like how is this even an argument.
People remember Vanilla has one of the hardest MMOs but in reality its not that difficult if you’re geared (which takes ages of grinding in Vanilla) and you know what to do which most people didnt back then and you can get a group of friends to help out cause the world is deadly alone.
So just looking for some people who were serious twinks in vanilla to weigh in here.
If
If you took ~two raids worth of 39 twinks, bumped them all up a level to get the extra talent point, that’s essentially what you have here. If you’re geared perfectly and know what youre doing, a 39 twink could compete against a joe-shmoe 60. So… A raid full of essentially 39 twinks can complete a few pieces of content designed for 60s…BREAKING NEWS at 11…
I would bet that all alliance are minors. Since all alliance are minors, they should be barred from logging in during school hours on their server time.
I would bet that all stores make millions. Since all stores make millions, they shouldn’t be effected by my shoplifting
I would bet my wife’s cheating on me. Since my wife is cheating on me, it’s only fair that i cheat on her.
Ooh, this is a fun game
Go fight Saurfang and then complain about raid bosses.
Blightcaller was a freaking wuss, we all know this… He was a L62 elite not a raid boss. Equivalent of getting slapped by a molten giant, not Golemagg
Wow WAS easy.
it was really easy lol… And then when everything was tuned to the point it was in 1.12 it streamlined things and made your talents very powerful as you leveled.
Its indicative of the world we live in today.
People make their own “facts” and whats actually true is irrelevant. If you don’t like the “truth” substitute it with your own BS. People are PROUD to do that these days.
They did not just tank spank it was a wipe.
Everytime they heal skeletons would spawn. Lol I wonder how many skeletons were alive.
The fight is simple if you use very little healing to no healing. You burn him down with about 8 lvl 60s. 2 tanks and 6 dps. Heals will make the fight harder.
With 80+ plus ppl they could of had 10 tanks, 70 plus dps just focus him down no heals only like 5 tanks would have died.
It certainly got that way. One night, I fell asleep tanking Garr… Woke up when they were yelling my name in vent and found out we’d downed him anyway.
Anything is easy if follow a good strategy.
That was horrible strategy. It still worked with the cost about 160 to 200 deaths.
So still #nochanges? I would be glad for Nathanos to be his old pre 1.9 or w/e patch he was nerfed inadvertently due to talent and gear changes self, but #nochanges, #amirite?
I can confirm you are able to hit something with that high of a level difference even on private servers. Sure, you will miss the majority of your swings, but some attacks will still hit. Also, you don’t lose rage if your ability is dodged or parried. Melee and casters will do little damage with the resists and glancing blows though.
As some ppl said 1.12 is the most nerfed version of Vanilla.
It would be the same TBC. In TBC by the end of THc the bosses in BT were nerfed over 50% of HP and Damage. Ppl would be like it’s easy. Lol. Easy after nerfs yea.
If I was bring back vanilla I wouldn’t nerf the mobs or any raids. I place them back to the original form minus bugs/glitches.
For the players let them keep their abilities probably nerf the warrior threat generation before the buff.
I didn’t watch this, so I have to ask. Was there no healing being done that would have spawned several level 60 skeletons per heal that would go after the healers? He was a tough bastard. Healing had to be frugal. DPS had to take down the skeletons before they killed the healers. It just seems hard to believe 2 raids of 40’s weren’t using heals that would have summoned hordes of level 60 skeletons that would have wiped the raid.
They spammed healing lol. Wiped and then spammed healing again.all 80+ ppl focus him down but wiped again. So many skeletons.
Let’s say with 40k hp with everyone doing 50 dps with 70 ppl he would go down in 11 secs. It seemed like it took about 40secs.
So, the dps was doing about 13 dps.
He went out like a champ though with 160 to 200 deaths compared to his one death.
That’s why they call it world content.
I knew someone would post about this. Its happened with basically every dungeon/elite mob in the beta so far thats higher level than the players.
Group of 5 level 30’s down SM Cath.
“OMFG the beta is too easy. Somethings not right!!! It was WAY harder back in vanilla. The beta is WRONG!!”
Group of 5 level 40’s complete ZF.
“OMFG the beta is too easy. Somethings not right!!! It was WAY harder back in vanilla. The beta is WRONG!!”
Like 80 damn players take down a 62 elite mob.
"NUP. BETA IS WRONG. BETA IS WRONG. cups ears LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU! BETA IS WRONG!
How about these people just have a little more trust in blizzard. You know, they DO have the ACTUAL data from 1.12? If they say the numbers are correct… then they’re damn correct! Lol
I thought we were finally over this crap. The numbers are accurate, if you wanted private server tuning then you should have been asking for it from the beginning of this project. You begged for authentic and you got it, no crying now.
Not quite accurate, you can outrun wolves which was not possible in vanilla.
Took me about 2 minutes to find a video of a low level Warrior outrunning wolves in Elwynn in 2006: