There is a 13 ilvl disparity between what mythic raid gives and every other form of content in the game (at max upgrade rank btw). I enjoy HC raid, but there is literally 0 incentive to engage with it ATM. Mythic raiders default to being over 10% stronger than you, and loot drops are so nerfed that by the time you’re fully geared with subpar loot, people who do DELVES will be around your ilvl.
Why is a form of content that is designed to be uncompletable by 90%+ of players in this game invalidating all the other loot in the game? THIS INCLUDES heroic raid loot of THE SAME TIER. A 13 ilvl disparity is INSANE.
Did enough world first raiders just complain on twitter enough to make all the other loot worse or something? Was there not enough WoW token sales to people buying carries with the other loot being decent?
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i agree mythic and raid finder should be cut only normal and heroic should exist
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I don’t mind mythic raid being in the game, I’m just tired of Blizzard bending over backwards for people like THD and making the game worse for EVERYONE else.
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You’re right, the ilvl disparity should be much higher. It’s unfair to Mythic raiders that their gear is only 13% better despite Mythic being many times harder than Heroic
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They need to just keep buffing delve loot. Delves are the best thing to be added to the game as I no longer have to deal with toxic players in M+ and can progress solely based on my skills and efforts.
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Better idea that more people would like: Remove mythic raid entirely, fire the people who made the decision to nerf every other source of loot, then make HC raid drop the best gear.
Done! Raid fixed!
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What do you need the ilvls for if you’re not doing the content? You already destroy everything in hero tier gear.
I do prefer how gearing was in S4.
*I guess you could argue those people will have an easier time getting into the content you enjoy via pugging, making it harder for you to play. But that’s always been the case.
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You forgot to change to a level 57/58 dk or lv 10 alt for this troll post
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Well I personally dont care if it’s in the game if it isn’t invalidating other things. There’s just too much of a gap between them and everyone else ATM. But, the game would certainly improve for everyone aside from the top 1000 guilds if mythic raid was just removed.
None of this is contradictory at all. There’s a difference between what I care about personally, and what should be changed for the game to be better.
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Jeez. People rail against M+ being a source of progression. People rail against Mythic raid being better gear.
What is the value of high ilvl gear? PvP has solved this already, where it would matter if there’s discrepancy between players.
For competitive play on the PvE side more challenge should yield the best gear. If you don’t like difficult content or can’t be bothered with it then being 626 or whatever should be sufficient.
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For whom? There are numerous demographics in this game. Some of them, whether you think the number is small or not, fall into the content you prefer gets wiped from the game altogether.
You can get mythic track gear from the vault with M+, there isn’t a disparity with all other form of content.
Clearing a full mythic raid gives around 1.6 pieces per person the vault is 1 piece, the vault will be more than half the loot you get until you can beat more than 5 mythic raid bosses which the majority of mythic raiders won’t do in a while. And then they might extend removing that advantage.
Moreover when you add crafted gear which you can get from heroic raid or m+ up to 636 so a 3 ilvl difference. There is nothing insane about it.
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For everyone other than mythic raiders, i.e., 90%+ of players the game objectively improves without mythic raid in the game. This content should not be gatekeeping progression when almost noone engages with it.
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How is it gatekeeping progression if the gear it provides is only needed for mythic raiding?
Getting AOTC doesn’t require +13 item level over what the raid provides.
And if you’re pushing high keys, you’ll be getting Myth track from your vault anyway.
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M+10s are able to be done without stepping foot in Mythic Raid. Stop.
Mythic raid is an additional level of challenge some people can pursue, and not everyone has to. For all those other people there’s LFR → Heroic.
Do you understand that there is a difference between character and content progression? Most people like progressing their character, almost noone likes progressing mythic raid. There’s a really easy solution if you don’t look at things emotionally
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Guys like the OP think the game is broken if he can’t get full BIS gear on his main + 10 alts in the season
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I 100% agree, Mythic raid is too much. Blizzard has made some extreme lines for gearing.
Vault is nice but 10’s are not easy for non mythic geared characters. Pugging is misserable now.
Cantrips, and raid BIS trinkets alone are enough reason but with all increased ilvl. there too much desparity.
Any key below 9/10 feels completely worthless. Wow gearing is honestly a complete mess this expansion.
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How does mythic gear invalidate heroic gear when you need heroic gear to progress mythic?
The only crowd this hurts are M+ title chasers, but I doubt that includes anyone on GD.
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