Mythic+ Progression Changes Now Live and More Coming Soon

[Marisia-defias-pillager]

@Argorwal-ysera

It’s weird how 8s are “free” yet 9s, which are only 10% different, are impossible.

it’s almost like the issue for most these players is they just need to spend a day or two getting more gear and 9s would be free as well. but it’s easier to complain

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Kelayne-pagle

The problem was they decided that the easy content needs to be hard, so what is the purpose then? And they always do this, they live in this world where they only talk to world first players and ignore everyone else, then it blows up in their face and it takes them even longer to make the game right

WF players aren’t living in 9s lol.

Over 700,000 unique characters have even timed 10s already.

[Happymushu-area-52]

@Nuwala-mankrik

12 of my real id friends offline, with little to no intention of returning

If the M+ being too hard, and gildeds being gated at 9’s was the straw that broke the camels back, they were always planning on quitting anyways.

9’s are not that hard if you’re not trying to item level punch up.

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Marisia-defias-pillager

but it’s easier to complain

Good ol placebo effect

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Kelayne-pagle

The problem was they decided that the easy content needs to be hard, so what is the purpose then? And they always do this, they live in this world where they only talk to world first players and ignore everyone else, then it blows up in their face and it takes them even longer to make the game right.

If M+10 had never become M0, this whole thing could have been averted. But folks have M+9s stuck in their heads which are more like M+19s and they are struggling

[Kelayne-pagle]

No bro, half the players that have run an m+ have not timed a 10 lol. Why would you lie about it?

[Caithyra-bleeding-hollow]

Remove the +12 Affix entirely so we get hard capped by our current gear and not an artificial difficulty jump up.

Make +9s give Myth track in the vault.

Put the Challenger’s Peril affix on +10s and higher. +10s and above should just be for portals/boosting IO.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Caithyra-bleeding-hollow

Remove the +12 Affix entirely so we get hard capped by our current gear and not an artificial difficulty jump up.

Make +9s give Myth track in the vault.

Put the Challenger’s Peril affix on +10s and higher. +10s and above should just be for portals/boosting IO

This is a great idea for players who view mythic+ gearing as dirty homework/chore and not a real end game progression system parallel to raiding.

[Yuriie-stormrage]

@Caithyra-bleeding-hollow

Challenger’s Peril

they should delete this affix, imo.

[Brocknor-hellscream (Brocknor)]

@Paeldryth-hyjal

the general playerbase doesn’t want to be challenged for their rewards.

There’s a massive difference between “challenge” and objectively “bad design.”

When you have some of the best players in the game telling you it’s overtuned (since beta) … then it’s overtuned.

This isn’t Joe Average asking for Mythic-track to drop from +3s.

These are the elite streamers pushing 11-12s currently, and all agree: M+ is overtuned atm.

We had “Gilded/equiv” and Mythic track drop from 18s/8s for more than FOUR YEARS, the justification to change this was … what exactly???

[Rawrloll-sulfuras]

I don’t know I think Guile is really stupid personally since it just puts a really odd difficulty spike for pushers. I guess blizzard is scared of big key numbers? Still is silly in my eyes.

[Dirus-bleeding-hollow]

@Shephaestus-senjin

There’s always going to be a meta. We just dealt with Veng for 2 seasons after Prot War was left drowning in a pool obscurity after getting nuked from orbit in DF S1. Let ‘em cook.

We did let them cook… they made British food.

[Caithyra-bleeding-hollow]

@Argorwal-ysera

This is a great idea for players who view mythic+ gearing as dirty homework/chore and not a real end game progression system parallel to raiding.

I’d rather farm +9s to fill my vault every week then +10s.

[Dancefortips-area-52]

@Xiata-bloodhoof

Other classes who COULD talent into something and help with it refuse to

Would be nice if i even had a talent i could talent into for it, but i dont.

[Kaivax]

The following changes have just gone live on all realms.

@Kaivax

Mythic Keystone Affixes

• Increased the duration of the buffs granted by Xal’atath’s Bargain Affixes to 30 seconds (was 20 seconds).
  • Developers’ notes: We’ve been closely monitoring the impact of the bonuses provided by Xal’atath’s Bargain affixes, and we’re increasing their overall power level on players. We will continue to monitor the effectiveness of these buffs as well as the challenges these affixes present.
• Xal’atath’s Guile now increases enemy health and damage by 10% (was 20%).
  • Developers’ notes: With the increase to the buffs granted to players by Xal’atath’s Bargain we’re reducing the effectiveness of of Xal’atath’s Guile, to allow players to push deeper into the Keystone system with current item levels.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Caithyra-bleeding-hollow

@Argorwal-ysera

This is a great idea for players who view mythic+ gearing as dirty homework/chore and not a real end game progression system parallel to raiding.

I’d rather farm +9s to fill my vault every week then +10s.

Yes, that makes sense, when viewing mythic+ as a stupid chore you need to do to fill the vault. The easier the better.

[Shephaestus-senjin]

@Dirus-bleeding-hollow

We did let them cook… they made British food.

Oh…inexcusable. Straight to jail.

[Leoneidas-malganis]

Thank you. Get a get my Gilded Crests for all the 8s I’ve completed so far? Thanks so much, appreciate it.

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Kelayne-pagle

No bro, half the players that have run an m+ have not timed a 10 lol

Talk about being out of touch and not even being able to check the front page of the site that tracks all of this.

@Brocknor-hellscream

These are the elite steamers pushing 11-12s currently, and all agree: M+ is overtuned atm.

So S1 of DF capped at 29s being the top key. That would be about a 17-18 in TWW. We’re clearing 14s already after only 3 weeks.

Dont you think its a tad premature?

[Whili-nemesis]

Oh, how nice of them after destroying M+ by doing things no one wanted, taking people who never played M+ and wanting to destroy the content?

And in DF, M+7 was so much better, but no, let’s add unbearable affixes infinitely, leave horrible balancing, include a pool of M+ with awful old dungeons that no one liked, and nerf all the rewards. It’s going to be the best season ever (SARCASM).