You don’t do anything to get welfare.
Welfare is given to you.
Working to get something is not that.
Find a better comparison, lmao.
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You’re being pedantic by focusing on one word not fitting perfectly.
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… what on earth are you talking about?
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It’s not even that it doesn’t fit perfectly, it’s just entirely incorrect.
Honestly, if I had to guess the only reason you want to use it is to fling shade, otherwise you wouldn’t take exception to the aforementioned.
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Says the mediocre M+ player that thinks raid tanking is a huge skill.
Btw, players complaining about M+ loot are hilarious. Raid tank mains are even more hilarious.
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They are begging on their hands and knees to get Gilded Crests at +6 keys. To me that is welfare and doesn’t take work to do. They are looking to completely out gear the content so they can brute force their way through.
It is because of the fact that you are more interested in playing word games than try and counter the actual argument.
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I don’t do M+, I hate it, so if you’re getting mythic crests from barely half of their intended level…
I want them from World quests and a tier 1 delve to upgrade my Hero gear.
I mean if you gonna go as low as a 6 for the expectation of a path to the best gear in the game, then… why not a 5? or a 2? why not M0?.
You’re clearly not doing M+ for fun or for the challenge of it as you claim, you’re doing it for the overpowered gear you should not have at the level you are playing.
Like people have done for the last 6~ years.
If your argument is transmogs then you can go back in 2 expansions and get them like everyone else.
Blizzard tries to fix the problem, 3 expansions late, and now the forums are full of people threatening to quit…
So quit, do what the guy above says and unsub, go back to Diablo and let WoW go back to being an MMO instead of an ARPG lobby game.
You’ve all been telling everyone to “git gud” in gear you you shouldn’t have for 8 years, now the shoe is on the other foot and you actually do have to get good to earn the gear.
I’ll never get Mythic gear and that’s fine, I’ll survive, life will go on, and I’ll still have fun with my friends on weekends.
M+ was the worst thing that ever happened to this game, and this thread shows with no uncertainty the why.
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You haven’t even timed a 5, you are definitely not able to respond like this.
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Which isn’t unreasonable given that was effectively the case in S4.
Getting the key to that level, assembling the group, going to the dungeon, doing the dungeon, performing your rotation, is work.
It may not be hard word according to you, but to say it’s not is just foolish cope.
It isn’t, I told you why, but I can’t make you face that fact if you don’t want to.
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No, it’s entirely unreasonable. Fact is DF have out Mythic Raid equivalent gear like candy. The difficulty of M+ steadily got softer and softer to the point where the population of players hitting KSH quadrupled since SL.
Again, your main focus continues to be on word games. I don’t care if you don’t like my use of welfare, I’ll use it if I want.
Welfare. Welfare. Welfare.
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It isn’t, otherwise it wouldn’t have been the case before.
Honesty.
My focus is on honesty.
I can see why you wouldn’t like that, of course, but that makes it no less true.
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It clearly is the case if they felt the need to reset the difficulty scaling. I like how you focused on that one line instead of the actual meat. Like I said you are more focused on word games.
That’s hilarious. Try again.
I’m so glad that my sub ends tomorrow. ppl here saying that +7/+8 or even +9 is “welfare”. Jesus christ, man
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That still doesn’t make it “unreasonable”, because it was still the case before and asking for it to revert to that case is no more or less beyond the pale therefor.
I addressed that, and as expected you responded thus:
Trying with you is clearly worthless.
I said people wanting to change Gilded crests to +6 want welfare gear.
How about we take mythic raid gear out of mythic+ since it doesn’t belong there anyways. You want mythic raid gear you have to do a mythic raid
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It does.
Glad to have wasted your time after you initiated this entire thing with me.
It doesn’t, I explained why.
Don’t mistake me, it’s not a waste of time because someone worthwhile might upon this exchange happen.
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I cannot get mythic raid gear from m+?
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I agree with you on +6. But +7 and +8 are way more difficult for pugs, specially with this xalatath bargain or something.
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