How about we keep the same system we have now and you just be more careful who you group with? Then depletes aren’t an issue at all, problem solved.
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Anyone else miss TBC when you had to get rep, to get attuned, to buy your keys for Heroics? Seems so long ago, and a much simpler process to get endgame gear.
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This is exactly what key depletion does already. If this idea is bad, so is key depletion (and they are indeed bad).
Yes, deplete players! Let it be a battle royale and there are only 5 left who pay the subscription so all those good-for-nothings will learn!!!
World of Hunger Games Warcraft!!!
Are you serious?
Perhaps you could link the credit card and each failure make a debit of 20 bucks. Come on toxics, go go go go for more!
Their fingers could be squeezed with a vise. A little, not too much.
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No. Because i dont want to be doing 60 keys to get to level 8s when i can get there 3
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Sounds like PVP rating for PVE.
Thats the dumbest thing iv ever heard, so players cant skip keys lol, so if someone did a 5 they cant do a 10 lol
I am very interested in knowing what happens to the player if it failed on the 3rd attempt.
Will they close your account? Do they send him fishing? to have pet fights? Will you have a 1 month ban?
How much anxiety, I want to know!
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There maximum level they can apply for on that dungeon drops by one. So if their previous max was 9 they would drip to 8. They would need to successfully complete an 8 to be apply to apply for a 9 again.
You can always invite your friends regardless of their previous success, this would just apply to PUGs.
So now not only can trolls make my current dungeon experience worse, they can potentially push me closer to needing to run a level lower just to earn my right back to where I was?
Also, have you considered what this might do with group leaders who are vetting players? Do you think they’ll be more or less strict with this punishment?
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I’d assume it would be far less toxic overall but extremely toxic if someone is on their 3rd attempt.
They’ll sabotage themselves with their bad attitude and blame everyone else for bricking their runs.
I play PUGs because of very different schedules than my friends from 6 months to now, with whom I can only chat on Discord.
If you really knew what “pug life” is like, you would realize that what you are saying is nonsense.
In 3 hours I healed 3 keys; a +8 untimed, a 10++ and a 10+.
Comments like yours lead me to stop playing M+ really, most of you are toxic like no other group in WoW.
I hope they make a separate game for you (like Hardcore or Remix Pandaria) and stop affecting the game as a whole. And there you put your toxic conditions, your crazy claims for free repair, your whims about what you should play or not in each class and spec, what to do with delves or any other activity… you have really pulled the rope too much.
This same forum proves it, they are complaints from M+ one after another.
So, this is a non-system. Your idea is to make the groupfinder tool objectively worse in, I see now. Hard pass.
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I don’t think you should be able to go backwards after completing a certain M+ level. You get bad groups, you get troll groups.
Also if I want to run with a friend who has a +8 key and I’ve only done a +7, I should be able to play with friends.
Thats a non system because is a definition of “mafia” : Mazzini Autorizza Furti Incendi Avvelenamenti (Mazzini Authorizes Thefts, Fires, Poisonings)
Only they can authorize “bad players” if they are their friends.
Then they apply the “omerta”, that is, the code of silence.
Everything said by this player should be prohibited.
I’ll take your idea and repurpose it:
Add a ‘surrender’ button to M+ dungeons. If 3+ people click this and the group disbands, there is no penalty for leaving. If you have been in the group for 50% over the timer and you leave, there is no penalty. If anyone is offline or /afk and you leave, there is no penalty. However, if you leave under different circumstances, your own key depletes one level.
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or you could just play better and not fail
Gotta love good old fashioned elitism 
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Fixed, and all for it.
It sure would. Charging your bnet account $5 every time you log in would also ‘create some different dynamics’.
Not good, but certainly ‘different’.
Get rid of the attunement nonsense and have it decay score instead and you’ve got something much better.
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