Yet somehow select people are devaluing ideas and not really contributing to a “good” idea.
If people like Sosari and Raiimir and Anxxy are so high on this subject above the people posting them then why don’t they give their 2 cents on an actual idea to be used according to the post subject instead of causing mass derailment with ego drops.
Agreed. I have definitely been a leaver once this expac because people were hard carrying their buddy while he was at work. Sorry, I’m not putting in two peoples worth of effort on a +10 there. If they ever implemented the 30 min debuff, I’d take it over wasting my time.
That would kill the game.
See that gets thrown around alot through the last few expacs but we’re still here aren’t we?
Oh, I completely agree in this context. I think a measuring contest really holds no weight in here, and we should all contribute ideas. It’s just sadly that people bicker and these threads become that. My opinion; 30min debuff at the absolute worst.
Kills the game.
No it doesn’t, especially not compared to OP’s idea. It’s already a system in the game anyway. Provide any other feedback other than “kills the game.”
You want to incentivize players to stay in M+ rather than punishing them for leaving. Add more rewards, not more punishments.
I really think Blizz should implement any one of these suggested leaver systems for a few days just so I can watch the forums light up with “My key was hijacked” threads.
Think Murdog is coming from the position that if he gets the penalty he can’t just do his own key for 30 mins and just get up eat some lunch and watch an episode of Friends and come back to do his key. Funny.
More reward for people that brick your key? SURE! Gimme free 421’s for leaving your key, I’ll gladly take it.
I said more rewards for staying in the M+.
Yea that means more gear! What wasn’t clear above?
Well, if we’re going to go into this, let’s throw around some ideas;
For real. 30 minutes is not a long time, go take a stretch, have a sandwich, and watch something while you wait.
So if I leave a key because some dumb DPS who couldn’t even get Glory before M+ released and is now dying because they can’t interrupt a gnoll in BRH (next season, can’t wait for that), I should be punished.
You weren’t invested in the key, you didn’t try to teach the people how to do their job, and you leave angrily and brick the person’s key. 30 minutes. It’s a half an hour. That is not that long. Would you rather suffer through the entire dungeon?
They bricked their own key. I just didn’t want to have to wait another 20 minutes and dying on even more pulls, wasting thousands on consumables and repairs to realize it.
Yes. You initiated the leave. Know what fixes this? By simply teaching him to kick that gnoll and if he keeps failing he’ll leave on his own quite quickly out of frustrations… But no you wanna save 5 mins before he leaves to brick the key.
If the key is already bricked to begin with because of this said person then make it known to the group leader and he’ll just kick the guy and everyone is free to leave/disband group. Which the penalty wont apply because the LEADER initiates the key disbanded by kicking someone or leaving himself.
The key holder is free to leave the key and not get his own penalty timer btw. It’s his key.
If they can’t even get Glory of the Dragonflight Hero, and they don’t know how to interrupt, then there’s no point in teaching them. They should have already known.
Fair point. Then incentivize another system, “Key Abandon.” You all leave the key with your consent, and it still deranks a key for the owner.
Vote to abandon the key and give valid reasoning. Now, obviously this will be abused to hell and back, but it’s something.